Oh now Betsy..don't be so hard on those legal intellectual giants that ruled to end Terri's life. After all, they loved her to death.
"Careful there now honey"
Posted on 06/19/2005 6:04:50 PM PDT by wagglebee
"I believe that Judge Greer should be held in contempt of Congress."
You're presuming that the "Congress" (actually the committee) acted according to protocol and their own rules. The rules were put into place to prevent Congress from abusing people they disagree with and minimize the politics.
It doesn't appear that the pertinent documents were properly executed. The people who did the documents know it and aren't going to proceed.
"yet she had been swallowing her own saliva. What a goofy world in which we live."
You did read the part in the autopsy where she was aspirating her mouth fluids right?
"After over 10 years in the medical field,
...
If she were swallowing saliva - then clearly her swallowing was not impaired."
I have a problem with Judge Greer being the only one who got to make that decision. Our elected Representatives felt otherwise about the papers and protocol.
Who gets to decide if it was right or wrong? Who has the power? Is it The people of the United States,who elect the Politicians and wanted them to act before a person was killed, or a County judge who wanted someone killed before they could testify before those elected reps?
Yup. She had numerous bouts of pneumonia over the years because of it.
But hey... Hammesfahr also said he would be able to get her well enough to go out to eat and to the movies! And that she was doing the parallel bars! And he's a Nobel Prize nominee, who's never even been peer-reviewed or published in a real journal!!!
Amazing. All the borderline/minimally conscious/PVS patients out there, and he has yet to actually perform any of these miracles he claims he could. lol
Nor would he or the Schindlers' atty submit his ever-so popular report to the court, it was so full of BS - the BS that gets repeated here as though it were worth more than ...BS. lol
What a quack.
National Enquirer, World Nut Daily, and Newsmax... FR's new media source, huh? ; )
Actually, Frist and Delay, et al, started off this whole mess after consulting with Hammesfahr himself, quoting him in their speeches and referring to the info he was pushing. They were outraged based mostly on what he was telling them, and believing he was credible.
But, it wasn't long before they found out he was a fraud and started backpedaling on the medical aspects in a big way.
Off to the pool. : )
Bump these real facts. Ignore the "facts" are all that matter ghouls. Most FReepers can tell the difference.
So according to you Terri was not swallowing her own saliva. What an odd thing to believe. Doesn't make any sense at all.
Funny. He's probably more deserving of a nomination than the quack.
You were right the other day, I didn't know what I was talking about. I don't spend very much time on the Terri threads and had you wrongly identified as one of the over-zealous save-Terri types. I do hope she's at rest now.
I apologize.
Oh now Betsy..don't be so hard on those legal intellectual giants that ruled to end Terri's life. After all, they loved her to death.
BUT... When I spoke with the people at Frist and Delay's office they were talking about Constitutional rights to representation, not on anything Hammesfahr. Further I find it hard to believe that Frist and Delay based their outrage all on one source and never looked at any of the other evidence.
That's just a buncha new-fangled doctorin' talk. If'n he was a real doctor, he'd have plenty a bat wings on hand. Ain't Doctor Granny good 'nuff fer ya? /sarcasm
(2) And how is it not an exact analogue of the situation in the Third Reich when they commenced their involuntary euthanasia program?
So would you want to make decisions about your husband? Or do you think his family should be the ones to decide?
BUT_ just because someone agrees with Greer- that does NOT make them a murder or a Nazi.
Secondly I am all for rights for the disabled- because I have worked with numerous fine people with disabiliies- but what happened to Terri is not the same thing as what Hitler did.
We could debate whether or not, in theory, Terri's case is a minute example of what motivated the Nazis. But I don't think it was.
I do think we need to have a discussion on disabled people have equal rights in this country- but I do not see that as the same thing as mass ethnic cleansing.
BUT I still say that supporting Greer does not a nazi make. (Althou I am not so sure about Felos... I do think he is a liar, a moonbat, a nut, a kook, a jerk and anything else I can think of.)
All things being equal to Terri's case-If there is no living will, and I have no idea what he would want, and I have exhausted all resources to find out what he would want, and he is still alive and breathing and NOT dying, then we need to come to a consensus as a family- and if that can not happen and I have a new lover and a family to raise ,and his parents want to care for him....I hand him over.
Pathology can only show so much, as the ME cautioned. He could not even ascertain the cause of the imjury.
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