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1 posted on 06/18/2005 7:04:11 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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For your interest.

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2 posted on 06/18/2005 7:06:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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Totally umauthorized message from all of Christendom: we coulda tolja that!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 06/18/2005 7:07:47 PM PDT by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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In it, the author, a former university professor who wishes to remain anonymous, claims to know the actual mechanism behind intelligent design. That is the mechanism by which God created the universe, our world and all biological life within it.

There is something that rings inevitably bogus about an "anonymous source" with a "revolutionary mechanism".

I won't waste my time.

4 posted on 06/18/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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In it, the author, a former university professor who wishes to remain anonymous, claims to know the actual mechanism behind intelligent design. That is the mechanism by which God created the universe, our world and all biological life within it.

There is something that rings inevitably bogus about an "anonymous source" with a "revolutionary mechanism".

I won't waste my time.

5 posted on 06/18/2005 7:12:46 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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Oh beautiful. Another thread for the Evo-Nazis to bash other peoples beliefs.


6 posted on 06/18/2005 7:15:28 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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I thought the Big Bang had been discarded as unworkable in favor of M Theory. Membranes in 11 dimensional space and all.


7 posted on 06/18/2005 7:16:48 PM PDT by TheLurkerX (Even if Darwin was wrong, I say we keep the awards.)
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...the author, a former university professor who wishes to remain anonymous, claims to know the actual mechanism behind intelligent design. That is the mechanism by which God created the universe, our world and all biological life within it.

My anonymous source tells a different story.


Cree Creation Story

When light first came to the earth, O-ma-ma-ma the earth mother of the Cree people gave birth to the spirits of the world. The first born was Binay-sih, the thunderbird who protects the animals from the sea serpent, Genay-big. Thunderbirds shout out their unhappiness or anger with black clouds, rain and fire flashes in the sky. The second born was Ina-kaki, the lowly frog who heightens the sorcerer's powers and helps to control the insects in the world. The third born was the trickster Wee-sa-hay-jac, who can change himself into many forms or shapes to protect himself. The fourth child was Ma-heegun, Wee-sa-hay-jac's little wolf brother. They travel together with Wee-sa-hay-jac on his back. The fifth born was Amik the beaver, who is greatly respected because he is an unfortunate human from a different world. Fish, rocks, grasses, and trees all came from the womb of the great earth mother O-ma-ma-ma. The earth was inhabited a long time by only animals and spirits because Wee-sa-hay-jac had not yet made any people.


8 posted on 06/18/2005 7:16:52 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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Kelly repeated shows she does not know her Bible very well.

(Gen 1:1 KJV) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

(Gen 1:2 KJV) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

water came before anything, or at least, was the only visible form of any matter.

For her to state that God used light to form matter, she is ignorant of the very first 2 verses of the Bible and their implications to Creation.


11 posted on 06/18/2005 7:23:06 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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This is the funniest thing Ive ever said gnite to in my life. wa hoo. ha
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Thought I'd leave it?



When it's mine?
When it's funny?

Tune in,ah!!!


13 posted on 06/18/2005 7:25:29 PM PDT by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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These small structural changes would not occur by mutation as the theory of evolution suggests, but rather by EMF causing and creating ever-increasing complex relationships between the nucleotides along the DNA strand.

I'm no Darwinist, but EMF is non-ionizing because it lacks sufficient energy to move protons and neutrons around. It affects electrons only, and that effect is temporary with the net effect ultimately zero (an electron moved away from one atom is replaced immediately by one freed from an adjacent atom). That is electron drift, the basis of electric current. If nonionizing EMF could mutate DNA so readily, radio and TV engineers would be terribly mutated creatures begging to be killed to end their suffering, and the rest of us sitting in from of the high-voltage cathode-ray tubes of computer monitors would likely be not much better off.

18 posted on 06/18/2005 7:38:03 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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That's fine, now would you explain to me where all the water came from? It can't be easy to create water, yet the world is overflowing with it. Where did it come from?


20 posted on 06/18/2005 7:38:36 PM PDT by Graymatter
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This is supported by Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity concerning the characteristics of light. Specifically, photons of light can behave dually like a stream of high-speed, submicroscopic particles, but also like a wave phenomenon.

The author would have done better to find an anomalous source.

25 posted on 06/18/2005 7:44:45 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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In the Bible, we are told that God created the universe out of nothing by using light.

What?

None of the versions of the Bible I've read come even close to saying this.

26 posted on 06/18/2005 7:47:17 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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Gerald Schroeder, The Science Of God
28 posted on 06/18/2005 7:54:19 PM PDT by onedoug
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ID does not equal genesis. I dont know why fundamentalists are hitching their cart to this horse.. I suppose its the best they can do with real science..


30 posted on 06/18/2005 8:00:44 PM PDT by Paradox (Never mind me, I thought this was another porn thread...)
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Well Charlite, faith is an interesting concept.

Just about everyone has faith in something.

Some have faith that there is no God.

Some have faith that evolution was the source of all life as we know it.

I guess you and I share a different faith, a faith in the God of Moses and the Bible. At least we, if our faith is not misplaced, have a future. The others do not. They will live and die assured their existence is a finite worthless exercise in futility.

It is comforting for me to know that God sent His Son to redeem me. He did and I will be eternally grateful.

Darwin be praised. There equal time has been served. Alas, eternity is only available to the believers of one faith.
36 posted on 06/18/2005 8:17:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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Having no desire to reenter the evolution debate at the moment, this article being the matter at hand, it is safe to say it is claptrap and obviously does not provide the "mechanism" it claims. Further, I am unaware of the need for believers in God's creation to identify any such "scientific mechanism". As opposed to faith.


39 posted on 06/18/2005 8:33:56 PM PDT by Williams
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As a result, ID has failed in broad view to distinguish itself as a true scientific theory on the origin of life.

Well, evolution hasn't either; because evolution is a true scientific theory of the origin of SPECIES, not of the origin of life.

41 posted on 06/18/2005 8:44:07 PM PDT by Strategerist
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I like the hand waving theory the best. With a magic wand mind you.


45 posted on 06/18/2005 9:00:52 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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...the author, a former university professor who wishes to remain anonymous...

I actually interviewed a former university professor who gave me the inside story on who wrote Shakespeare's plays. He also wishes to remain anonymous. He swore me to secrecy, too. (Claimed, that if the Truth were know, it would lead to the end of Western Civilizaton and the Entlish Language. He also showed me the handshake.)

46 posted on 06/18/2005 9:02:54 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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