I guess you reject The 10 Commandments because they were not written in English.
Posted on 06/16/2005 4:56:23 PM PDT by Jane_N
San Francisco, Jun. 15, 2005 (CNA) - A ruling this week by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld an earlier decision that Holocaust survivors can continue their claims against the Vatican for the restitution of funds plundered from former Yugoslavia during the Second World War.
The majority of the victims of genocide in Croatia during World War II were Orthodox Christian Serbs. More than 500,000 of them were liquidated by the Croatian Ustasha, with the backing of some Catholic clerics. These funds have been referred to as the Ustasha or Croatian treasury.
According to a report by Matt Abbott, the San Francisco court denied a Vatican petition for reconsideration and a request for an extraordinary en banc hearing. It also issued an amended opinion which indicated the Italian Peace Treaty of 1947 did not preclude the lawsuit because the Vatican was not a signatory to the treaty.
Actually, it is the other way around. Vatican helped Croatian Nazis to stash and keep over $200M in 1945 dollars that were the criminal proceeds from the genocide.
The loot was collected by Nazi State, and the official in charge of looting was - RC priest Krunoslav Draganovic. He was not defrocked for his looting role, and that makes Vatican A PARTY IN NAZI GENOCIDE.
it is not free money, it is money stained with the blood of victims of genocide.
Lots of confusion, that's for sure. But one thing that we are sure of is that he saved thousands of lives.
These are the people who are aborting and immigrating Italy to death...but let's blame Catholics instead.
One day the US courts will overreach themselves and it will be a catastrophe of the Constitution. It is a shame this will happen, but the courts will have no one to blame but themselves.
And yes, the Vatican is a theocracy - thank God.
The Vatican did a lot of evil things during the 20th century
When a sissy leftist Italian says the Vatican "did a lot of evil things" he means (1) the Vatican actively opposed the spread of Communism in Italy and (2) the Vatican saved thousands of the evil Jews who are now oppressing the poor, put-upon Palestinians.
I suggest that you read Thy Brother's Blood: The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism by Malcolm Hay (a Catholic priest BTW). He documents the history of anti-Jewish persecution by the Church up until the Holocaust. Even though the Church today has repented of its past, you can't claim it never happened.
Many of the pogroms and persecutions were instigated by Jewish "converts" to Christianity, who converted not out of a sincere salvation, but for revenge motives against their own community.
The 13th-century decree in France confiscating all copies of the Talmud for "anti-Christian" content was inspired by a book-burning conducted by the Jewish communities themselves, destroying the books of Maimonides.
In my last post I acknowledged that the Church mistreated Jews throughout the Middle Ages.
But the Church never authorized, orchestrated or endorsed any pogrom or slaughter of any Jewish community.
Whose lives? Lives of Nazi war crimninals who used Vatican Ratlines to reach South America?
Thousands of refugees who were stuck in camps or hiding in the Italian and Austrian countryside, fearful of repatriation to Tito's Communist state which had already massacred 10's of thousands of Croatians and Montenegrins beginning in May 1945 after they were repatriated.
It has a large collection of Hebrew manuscripts.
Despite Procopius and Justinian, it is highly unlikely that the actual original menorah survived the Roman sack of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
I agree with you. A theocracy is guided by religion's beliefs.Christian theocracy, by the Cristian beliefs. Otherwise, it would be ridiculous, imagine Mullahs consulting Thorah for guidance.
Since Vatican is Christian theocracy, one can expect that the 10 Commandments are the building stones of it:
6th "Thou Shalt Not Murder"
8th Commandment: "Thou shalt not Steal"
10th: 10th Commandment; "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."
Let's put asside other historical precedents, Let's focus to Nazi Croatia 1941-45 and the role of Vatican in her crimes.
During the existence of Nazi Croatia, Vatican did nothing to prevent the Croatian state from publicly encouraging faithful RC flock to murder, pillage and loot Serb and Jewish property. Contrary to that, Monsignor Draganovic who presided over commission and distributed the loot was not defrocked by Vatican. He even became Crtoatia's Red Cross representative in Vatican. All these functions could not be held WITHOUT TACIT Vatican approval, according to the Canonical law. It is also worth mentioning that Krunoslav Draganovic personally took role in extermination of Serbs in Nothern Bosnia (Kozara region) in June 1942, also against the Canonical law.
And we have not touched the issue of forced conversion of Christians to RC faith. While Vatican was in no position to stop genocide, the all power to stop forced conversions was in Vatican's hands. The Archbishop who presided over forced conversions was elevated to Cardinal and beatified. Do I have to say anything more?
Many converted were murdered afterwards. "We saved their souls, if we could not save their bodies" was the comment.
The crimes were not isolated. More than 400 000 Serbs were murdered and their property looted. Their property was kept by murdererers, with Vatican help.
Vatican is theocracy, I agree. But is it a Christian one?
Excuse me? What are you accusing Draganovic of doing during Kozara?
Next.
I am not accusing him of anything. the evidence is accusing him. As an Ustasha officer, Draganovic participated in June 1942 operation against Serb civillians in Kozara region, the same as Kurt Waldheim.
Also, The Canonic law of RC Church is accusing him. As a RC priest, he was not allowed to activelly participate in military operation targetting civillians.
He was never an Ustasha officer nor was he involved with the anti-communist sweep of the Kozara Mountains.
I guess you reject The 10 Commandments because they were not written in English.
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