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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
New Thread ^ | 6/16/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/16/2005 9:43:44 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: CitizenM
"The situation these teens were in was far more serious than to have been trusted to honor a stupid contract."

The "contracts" were a feel-good measure by the organizers of the trip, the kids and the parents. "Look Mom, I'm not going out drinking, I promise, Karen and Susie's Dads will be there... I'll even sign a contract! Don't worry, I'll be fine..."

They are also a sorry reminder of the litigious society we live in today.

All that aside, personally, I'd like to hear more about Natalee's father. You know, what he does for a living? Who he works with? Business contacts and partners? Clients? Ex-clients? Who he knows in... oh, say... the FBI?

281 posted on 06/17/2005 6:51:21 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: maggiefluffs
This case is not solved and not solved on purpose. The Arubans have a higher calling in this case above solving a murder. It's exticating themselves from this mess that attacts worldwide attention, while insuring a son of an 'elite' escapes punishment.

If you're Dutch and in Gov't in Aruba your exempt. The A.G. defended a 9 day delay in searching the kid's home saying they could'nt rush in like cowboys.

Didn't seem to concern her when they rushed in and arrested to unemployed black guys.

282 posted on 06/17/2005 6:51:50 AM PDT by Swanks
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To: spectre

It doesn't make much sense, does it?

FOXNews reporting fourth arrest .... friend of JVDS.


283 posted on 06/17/2005 6:52:23 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs; All

Fox confirms 4th arrest, friend of VDS.

The three are currently in court.


284 posted on 06/17/2005 6:52:23 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "Elvis made a few bad movies," he grinned. "This too shall pass.")
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To: maggiefluffs

Wow. Sounds like a regular occurance: Girl disappears, ends up being found in a crack house.


285 posted on 06/17/2005 6:53:02 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Hatteras

Hatteras, I don't know what her step father does. It seems like he's well conected. Her biological father works for State Farm Insurance.


286 posted on 06/17/2005 6:54:09 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: WestCoastGal

This gets curiouser and curiouser.

Now another friend?


287 posted on 06/17/2005 6:54:13 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: spectre
I think the boys had some help, after the fact, and the body probably will never be found.

Never finding the body would prevent the three from ever being convicted of anything.

They were loose long enough to make arrangements.

The Aruba Police are just not up to solving this, they are like the Park Police in Washington D.C.

288 posted on 06/17/2005 6:54:35 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: CitizenM
CM, do you know how many teens go off on these types of trips every year.....I would guess not thousands but tens-to-hundreds of thousands. I'm talking spring break, grad, etc. Heck, when I graduated from HS, we took a cruise to the Bahamas which was exclusively high school grads from around the country.

The point is that while Ms. Holloway's disapearance is tragic, it is a statistical anomoly....and at some point, these "kids" fly away from the coop. Indeed, I would guess that the avg age of our fighting foces in Iraq is not too far removed from Ms. Holloway's age.

289 posted on 06/17/2005 6:55:11 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: maggiefluffs

Probably the friend who owns the boat.


290 posted on 06/17/2005 6:55:40 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: johnb838
O'reilly at least had some of the friends on and got a rationale as to why the chaperones were keeping quiet -- answer, the FBI told them to.

That was already public knowledge. After numnut Whoreraldo asked Holloway Twitty if she knew blood (which was not his place to do and turned out not to be blood)was found in the car on worldwide tv in order to be the first to be the one in the know, yes the FBI attempted to plug up the flow of info.

291 posted on 06/17/2005 6:56:45 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: bonfire; maggiefluffs

I guess we can only surmise that if VDS is guilty and the brothers are not and he had no car that night, someone had to help him.

It does appear that whoever the person is that Maggie is getting info from has news just before the media does.


292 posted on 06/17/2005 6:57:15 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "Elvis made a few bad movies," he grinned. "This too shall pass.")
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To: ContemptofCourt

That's funny. I forgot, but I took a trip like that too when I was 14.


293 posted on 06/17/2005 6:58:57 AM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: maggiefluffs
My opinion of how the adult "chaperones" approached their very serious duty of watching these teenagers by relying on a "contract":

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And, as adults in Aruba, how they enjoyed the beach and ignored the teens:

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294 posted on 06/17/2005 6:59:00 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: WestCoastGal; All

I wonder if there is any cash award for info? Anyone know?


295 posted on 06/17/2005 6:59:28 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Swanks
The A.G. defended a 9 day delay in searching the kid's home saying they could'nt rush in like cowboys

Sounded really French didn't it. Didn't seem to concern her when they rushed in and arrested to unemployed black guys.

Oh no, they are people of the world, they have no racism in Aruba. That sounded really French too. Are they dutch or are they French?

296 posted on 06/17/2005 7:00:38 AM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: bonfire

Yes, a reward has been posted since the first day. $75,000 or $85,000 dollars, as I recall.


297 posted on 06/17/2005 7:00:59 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Also a search going on re: this fourth arrest of 26 yr old per FOX.

Hearing has not begun, they will be hearing motions by prosecution to hold them 8 more days and by the defense to see evidence.


298 posted on 06/17/2005 7:01:25 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "Elvis made a few bad movies," he grinned. "This too shall pass.")
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To: johnb838

" Didn't seem to concern her when they rushed in and arrested to unemployed black guys."

Good point.


299 posted on 06/17/2005 7:01:26 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: johnb838

Wow, you graduated hs at 14? You must be really smart.


300 posted on 06/17/2005 7:01:38 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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