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To: Modernman
Are you that dense, or do you just pretend. Somebody complained that they smelled tobacco smoke, and it was offensive to them. That is quite subjective, and open wide, for interpretation.

In his LEASE CONTRACT, smoking cigarettes was not forbidden. Just because the HOA wanted to bitch, and fine the landlord, it was the landlords obligation to protect the smokers interests. He has been given a pass...by smoke nazis...

Go peddle your tricycle...

241 posted on 06/17/2005 8:53:16 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Somebody complained that they smelled tobacco smoke, and it was offensive to them. That is quite subjective, and open wide, for interpretation.

That's why we have courts, and juries. For hundreds of years, juries have been applying the "reasonable man" standard to nuisance and real estate disputes. There is no other way to determine whether or not a particular activity is unreasonable.

In his LEASE CONTRACT, smoking cigarettes was not forbidden.

True, but there was a more general lease provision forbidding offensive odors. Unless a lease specifically prohibits a certain activity (such as having pets or smoking), then you are allowed to reasonably engage in such activity. However, a general provision in a lease banning offensive odors, sounds, activities etc. would prevent you from subjecting your neighbors to constant cigarette smoke or from owning 20 cats that stank the building up to high hell.

Just because the HOA wanted to bitch, and fine the landlord, it was the landlords obligation to protect the smokers interests.

Huh? I didn't see anything in the article about a HOA. Other tenants complained to the landlord, who decided to evict these tenants for their unreasonable activities. A jury agreed that their constant smoking violated their lease.

242 posted on 06/17/2005 9:14:41 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: pageonetoo; Modernman
Walking around the unit with their lawyer looking on, Carey pointed out what the couple said were numerous structural problems, including a ventilation unit patched together with duct tape, holes and gaps in the exposed brick walls, and a closet ceiling where the planks of the subfloor of the unit above were clearly visible.

253 posted on 06/18/2005 5:32:06 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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