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Jury finds heavy smoking to be grounds for eviction
The Boston Globe ^ | By Ralph Ranalli and Jonathan Saltzman | June 16, 2005

Posted on 06/16/2005 5:33:52 AM PDT by Boston Blackie

In a case that tobacco law specialists say is one of the first of its kind in the nation, a Boston Housing Court jury ruled that a South Boston couple could be evicted from their rented water-view loft for heavy smoking, even though smoking was allowed in their lease.

The landlord who rented the Sleeper Street unit to Erin Carey and Ted Baar ordered them out within a week last November, after neighbors complained of the smoke odors filtering into their apartments.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aclulist; billofrights; constitutionlist; pufflist; wodlist
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1 posted on 06/16/2005 5:33:52 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

That is effing ridiculous, especially since it was allowed by their lease.


2 posted on 06/16/2005 5:35:23 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Boston Blackie

One day soon, every smoker will have to smoke withing a positive-pressure, super filtering booth to avoid offending someone or breaking a law.


3 posted on 06/16/2005 5:36:37 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Smoking is allowed but only 2 cigarettes per person per hour...
4 posted on 06/16/2005 5:37:13 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: theDentist

Really? I live in an apartment above a heavy smoker, and it simply rises into my apartment. I have asthma, and it's certainly makes me ill.

In addition, my apartment smells like I am a heavy smoker.

Now you tell me, since I don't choose to smoke, what the solution is?

It's either 1. He goes, or 2. The landlord releases me from my lease.

Remember, your rights stop where my body begins. In this case you could say your rights stop where your apartment walls end, and if your actions go beyond your walls, then you are subject to eviction, etc.


5 posted on 06/16/2005 5:38:38 AM PDT by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: Boston Blackie
ncluding a ventilation unit patched together with duct tape

Duhhhh I wonder why they call it "duct" tape?
6 posted on 06/16/2005 5:39:25 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?)
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To: SheLion

you're going to love this one!


7 posted on 06/16/2005 5:42:12 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: theDentist

Article says:

"the jury found that the couple's heavy smoking violated a more general clause banning 'any nuisance; any offensive noise, odor or fumes; or any hazard to health.' "

The smoke and odor were invading the neighboring apartments. When I rent an apartment I like it to be free of my neighbors' noxious odors. It's like loud music or other noises: you can make noise, but not so much that you disturb the neighbors. These smokers could smoke, but not so much that they disturb the neighbors.


8 posted on 06/16/2005 5:43:06 AM PDT by cracker
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To: Boston Blackie
This is the next front for the smoking nazis. The latest public service ad is sponsored by mysmokefreeapartment.com . It's a way for tenants to petition the building owner to make it smoke free. That is, to throw out the smokers ala the restaurants.

The only good thing about the link is that it's dead.

9 posted on 06/16/2005 5:47:52 AM PDT by spudsmaki
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To: Boston Blackie

Did clear definition of "Heavy Smoking" come out of this enlightened decision?


10 posted on 06/16/2005 5:49:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: cracker

Agreed. This is the precedent-setter that the Smoking Nazis have been praying for.


11 posted on 06/16/2005 5:50:12 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: 1stFreedom
Remember, your rights stop where my body begins. In this case you could say your rights stop where your apartment walls end, and if your actions go beyond your walls, then you are subject to eviction, etc.

Reminds me of a battle my brother-in-law had in his condo in Florida....neighbor complaining about the aroma of garlic when my brother-in-law made spaghetti sauce. The neighbor wanted 'ethnic' cooking banned in the entire complex.

12 posted on 06/16/2005 5:53:04 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: 1stFreedom
re:Now you tell me, since I don't choose to smoke, what the solution is?
 
suck it up and buy a house if it bothers you that bad. Apartment living has always been a pain in the arse.
too much farging whining these days.
13 posted on 06/16/2005 5:53:08 AM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: clee1

I think you mean Negative pressure.


14 posted on 06/16/2005 5:53:47 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?)
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To: Boston Blackie; SheLion; Gabz; Just another Joe
PUFF

FMCDH(BITS)

15 posted on 06/16/2005 5:54:30 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Boston Blackie

The difference is that garlic is arguably good for you and smoke is not.


16 posted on 06/16/2005 5:55:28 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?)
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To: Boston Blackie

The lease should have said no smoking allowed. That being said, smokers don't just impact their own insides; their smoke diffuses into the surrounding atmosphere, and then seeps through cracks in walls and through ductwork until it lends an odor to an entire building. Suppose that cigarette smoke smelled like hydrogen sulfide (rotten eggs); would defenders of indoor smoking be as likely to defend it then? Probably not. To some of us, the smell of cigarette smoke, even at a distance, is almost as offensive as the smell of rotten eggs.


17 posted on 06/16/2005 5:55:37 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: jocon307; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ...
you're going to love this one!

Oh I'm sure. LOL!  The smoking threads sure bring out the CINO's.

18 posted on 06/16/2005 5:55:38 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Yup. Oops....


19 posted on 06/16/2005 5:56:03 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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20 posted on 06/16/2005 5:57:37 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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