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Schiavo Autopsy Finds No Sign of Trauma
Washingtonpost.com ^ | June 13, 2005 | MITCH STACY

Posted on 06/15/2005 9:18:16 AM PDT by blogblogginaway

LARGO, Fla. -- An autopsy on Terri Schiavo backed her husband's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state, finding that she had massive and irreversible brain damage and was blind, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It also found no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused.

But what caused her collapse 15 years remained a mystery. The autopsy and post-mortem investigation found no proof that she had an eating disorder, as was suspected at the time, Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin said.

Autopsy results on the 41-year-old brain-damaged woman were made public Wednesday, more than two months after Schiavo's death March 31 ended an internationally watched right-to-die battle between her husband and parents that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.

Thogmartin also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.

She died from dehydration, Thogmartin said.

He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

He also said she was blind, because the "vision centers of her brain were dead."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: argueargueargue; disabled; emotionallydisabled; schiaveautopsy; schiavo; stilldead; swindlers; terribots; terrischiavo; terrischindler; veggiebrain
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To: Bones75
I've only seen one post today that admitted the autopsy results changed their mind.
241 posted on 06/15/2005 2:49:19 PM PDT by the Deejay (The lady Deejay)
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To: twoid; k2blader
And making the very difficult decision to remove a feeding tube does not make a person evil.

No it does not.

If it does, then there are evil doers (if not murderers) at this very minute removing feeding tubes all over the world.

242 posted on 06/15/2005 2:52:21 PM PDT by the Deejay (The lady Deejay)
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To: twoid
Most of those feeding tubes removed from "people everyday in this country" are probably removed because the person is dying and very near death. Terri was not dying or facing imminent death.
243 posted on 06/15/2005 2:53:06 PM PDT by BloomNTn
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To: Bones75

You sound so ridiculous and bitter. I guess you just want to argue. Calm down.


244 posted on 06/15/2005 2:59:00 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: the Deejay

Hey, you're the guy who said you trust Mark Furhman. But, I guess, that was when you thought he agree with you.


245 posted on 06/15/2005 3:07:39 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Dante3

"You sound so ridiculous and bitter. I guess you just want to argue. Calm down."

On the contrary, I am neither. You've got it all wrong my friend. I am only trying to insert some logic into the debate. But considering every previous Terri thread right up to this one, you are right, I should know better.


246 posted on 06/15/2005 3:19:05 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: churchillbuff
I don't agree on everything w/my husband of 46 years. (I'm not a guy. See tagline.)

Nor can I possibly agree w/Mark or anyone else, on every single thing.

I decide things for myself after I've researched it.

247 posted on 06/15/2005 3:20:26 PM PDT by the Deejay (The lady Deejay)
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To: twoid

a feeding tube is not a "man-made machine."


248 posted on 06/15/2005 3:21:49 PM PDT by Collier
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To: Dante3

......if that list isn't enough to convince any intelligent thinker , I don't think anything would. This is separating the " CONSERVATIVES and the "liberatives"........


249 posted on 06/15/2005 3:37:16 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: blogblogginaway
...and was blind

That discounts the whole thing!
Anybody who saw the video of her following the balloon with her eyes knows she wasn't totally blind.

250 posted on 06/15/2005 3:44:24 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Bones75
Terri had no awareness... not a thought.. not a feeling... nothing... is it safe to assume that your grandma and also alzheimer's patients are aware of their surroudings?

BALONEY!!!!!!!!

251 posted on 06/15/2005 3:45:40 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Bones75
But considering every previous Terri thread right up to this one, you are right, I should know better.

You can't argue science with these folk. BTW, one small "bone" to pick with you - I think is quite similar to the grandma situation in that a lot of people with Alzheimer's have feeding tubes pulled every day, even those without living wills. When someone gets to a state where no recovery is possible, only further deterioration, and they are in persistent vegetative states (such as end-stage Alzheimer's), most states will allow the responsible party to decide whether or not to continue a feeding tube.

252 posted on 06/15/2005 3:48:31 PM PDT by Spyder (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: CondorFlight

No. They are the result of incompetent, poorly edited paraphrasing of raw medical data by those who can't interpret it.


253 posted on 06/15/2005 3:49:41 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: tkathy

Agreed. Strange that so many think they are required by God.


254 posted on 06/15/2005 3:52:35 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Collier
a feeding tube is not a "man-made machine."

Really? Where in nature does one go to find one? Do they grow them in your state? Does one just grow a tube out of their stomach when they can't feed themselves any more? Oh, you mean someone has to inject an artificially produced formula into the mass-produced feeding tube? It can also be administered by machine, with set dosings every so many hours or minutes. If you want to argue that a feeding tube is natural by any stretch of the imagination you're going to lose.

255 posted on 06/15/2005 3:52:42 PM PDT by Spyder (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: k2blader
"Pro-death"? That's the phrase now?

I guess they always win out in the end.

256 posted on 06/15/2005 3:55:00 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

Some have been banned for less. You are brave.


257 posted on 06/15/2005 4:01:37 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: the Deejay

How did a discredited L.A. cop who couldn't seal the deal on a murderer with blood all over the perp's car become an expert on anything? Why does anyone care what Fuhrman has to say?


258 posted on 06/15/2005 4:04:16 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: the Deejay
I always hear FNC anchors say how they want to SEE FACTS for themselves and not what they are told.

"We Decide, We Report"?

259 posted on 06/15/2005 4:05:13 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: churchillbuff
also, he said that strangulation can happen without leaving evidence

I hope is states that clearly enough in his book to leave himself open to a libel suit.

260 posted on 06/15/2005 4:06:33 PM PDT by malakhi
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