Posted on 06/15/2005 9:18:16 AM PDT by blogblogginaway
LARGO, Fla. -- An autopsy on Terri Schiavo backed her husband's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state, finding that she had massive and irreversible brain damage and was blind, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It also found no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused.
But what caused her collapse 15 years remained a mystery. The autopsy and post-mortem investigation found no proof that she had an eating disorder, as was suspected at the time, Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin said.
Autopsy results on the 41-year-old brain-damaged woman were made public Wednesday, more than two months after Schiavo's death March 31 ended an internationally watched right-to-die battle between her husband and parents that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.
Thogmartin also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.
She died from dehydration, Thogmartin said.
He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.
"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.
He also said she was blind, because the "vision centers of her brain were dead."
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Can you provide a link to medical reports that said this?
Pinging for medical reports. Any of you still have the links to this?
Yep I think you are right ...If anyone failed this woman it was the investigators at the beginning who failed to find out why she collapsed...and that might be unknowable
It was a legitimate question.....after reading some of your posts, I really was not for sure which way you would come down.
The way you describe Terri, my grandma is alot like that, you know, in diapers, etc.....why should I go feed her tonight?
"I'm still curious, why are some people so afraid to let a person spend eternity in Heaven? Is a hospice bed with a diaper and a feeding tube better?"
(*dancing around pointing finger*) Culture of death! Culture of Death! Nyaah Nyaah Nyaahh!! Culture of Death!
;-)
Now, that's not true.
Choking, strangultion will show damages in one form or another.
I respectfully disagree w/Mark on this.
When Terri first went to the hospital, they x-rayed her from head to toe, a few times over. They found nothing to indicate any type of foul play. Including exterior exams.
I read this from the hospital records & court documents, months ago.
"The way you describe Terri, my grandma is alot like that, you know, in diapers, etc.....why should I go feed her tonight?"
What a rediculous statement. And the thing is, I think you actually know how insane that comment is but don't care.
Terri is not your grandma (my regards to your grandma) and your grandma is not Terri.
Terri had no awareness... not a thought.. not a feeling... nothing... is it safe to assume that your grandma and also alzheimer's patients are aware of their surroudings?
You are trying to equate *diminished* awareness with 15 years (15 YEARS!!) of *no* cognitive awareness. (No, she is not following the balloon)
If you were Terri.. would You want the feeding tube indeffinitely, or not?
You don't even get it. This isn't about "letting" someone "spend eternity in Heaven". It's about whether it is right or wrong to forcibly dehydrate and starve a living, breathing human being to death.
Now, that's not true."""
Yes, you know a lot more about strangulation than a veteran Los Angeles PD homicide detective.
Perfectly describes my grandma at the moment....should we not feed her tonight? We dealt with my great-grandmother who also had alzeheimers for 12 years, yes, 12 long years, but we always feed her. God took her home when He was ready.
I would never want to be starved to death.
EXACTLY!!!!!!
Terri is not your grandma, with all due respect. And the situations are not even remotely similar.
Hurling remarks about me...someone you don't know or know what I DO/DO NOT know. You know nothing about my background.
Matter of fact, I have sons older than Mark.
I've been around long before Mark was born.
Yes they are, they are very similar. My grandma's brain is almost all liquid. Dr. Felos and his ilk are for starving alzheimers patients........
They situations are very similiar.
Well done. ^5.
Some of these threads have become excuses to bash religious people, particularly Christians. Yet many Jews, agnostics, and those not affiliated with organized religion also supported Terry. (I don't know about Muslims.) Also some pro-choice groups. This is because the case raised many issues, and was not a right to die controversy. To list some of them:
*The barbaric method of killing Terri.
*The lack of due process.
*The terrible way Terri was treated (not even flowers were allowed for her).
*The acceptance by the court of outright lies that Terri would have wanted to die.
*Assigning an estranged husband with a sadistic streak (revealed by his own words & deeds), a mistress, illegitimate children, and conflict of interest to be her guardian.
*Hiding Terri's medical records and not allowing experts to give second opinions.
*Allowing Michael to stop her therapy and confiscate the money assigned for it.
*Permitting Michael to avoid legitimate subpoenas.
*The frightening amount of power judges are permitted to wield - they can dismiss laws and break oaths.
Most definitely. The root of leftism is Christophobia.
LE did an investigation at the time, "no foul play."
Or did Michael Schivao pay them off too? (The beginning of the "conspiracy/payoffs".)
Count up how many ppl he managed to pay off w/his meager salary, right up to the US Supremes.
(Who refused four times to look at the case.)
*The barbaric method of killing Terri.
Which she was 100% unaware of. Still barbaric?
*The lack of due process.
The letter of the law was followed, despite the best efforts of the militant Terri-bots
*The terrible way Terri was treated (not even flowers were allowed for her).
Flowers she would have never known were there.
*The acceptance by the court of outright lies that Terri would have wanted to die.
How do you know that? You think it's actually MORE likely she PREFERRED to be kept in that state indeffinitely? You HONESTLY believe that?
*Assigning an estranged husband with a sadistic streak (revealed by his own words & deeds), a mistress, illegitimate children, and conflict of interest to be her guardian.
Sadistic streak? Evidence? Also, you are aware that her own parents advised him to date other people, right? You DID know that, right?
*Hiding Terri's medical records and not allowing experts to give second opinions.
Already established to be a lie. Her parents had her records the whole time.
*Allowing Michael to stop her therapy and confiscate the money assigned for it.
He spent massive amounts on all kinds of therapy for her, until dcotors told him it was no use.
*Permitting Michael to avoid legitimate subpoenas.
What??
*The frightening amount of power judges are permitted to wield - they can dismiss laws and break oaths.
The judge didn't do anything." What the Terri-bots wanted was for the judge to INTERVENE and go against the state law. So what happened was you WANTED the judge to dismiss laws and break oaths", and he did not, and that is actually what you are complaining about.
Don't you EVER get the feeling that sometimes a truth that hurts is better than a lie that feels good? Ever?
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