Majority of Americans Favour Iraq Troop Withdrawal

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[Huck]

So you would like to go back to the "glorious days of LBJ

Let's leave the GWB/GOP Medicare disaster out of this.

and MacNamara" where they had all kinds of measures for success

Yes. I believe there should be objective measures that ordinary Americans can look at to measure progress towards our objectives. While we can't know how long it will take, we can certainly get a specific idea of what needs to be done, what remains to be done, and roughly how long we think it will take.

--such as body counts,

I don't care what the measures are, so long as they accurately reflect progress towards a goal. For example, trained Iraqi forces. How many have we trained? How many left to go? When 50 get blown up, does that lower our total count by 50, requiring that we train 50 replacements? About how many must we train before they take over? What pace are we training them at? Provide an approximate date when we think we can have the whole number trained. etc. It's called accountability. along with the use of "limited force" which ties the hands of our valiant men in the combat zone?

[Huck]

Sorry, this line ("along with the use of "limited force" which ties the hands of our valiant men in the combat zone?") was accidentally left on the end of my post.

[MinorityRepublican]

The USA has not decided that it's enemy is Islam, and it is. Islam long ago declared war on all who are not Muslim, and required that infidels be killed where ever they are found. Since the USA has not recognized it's enemy, it might as well give up the war. No American should have to die, because the USA is not willing to even name it's enemy. I would not fight under these conditions, and I would not ask for anyone to fight an unnamed enemy.

Fundamentalist, Wahhabist Islam sponsored by Saudi Arabia is the threat to our existence.

Islam practiced in Turkey, Uzbekistan, and other places is a different form of Islam. Which can co-exist with the West. Once we crush the uprising in Iraq, fundamentalist Islam will lose the upper hand in the Middle East.

At this point, it is benefical for us to remain in Iraq because we are eliminating terrorists there rather having to face them here at home.

[Just A Nobody]

IIRC, there was talk a while back about closing the base in Germany. I have not seen anything more about that, have you? It was said that the removal of our base would devastate Germany's already fledging economy.

But I hate it when I have to endure calls for an exit strategy from nincompoops and socialists.
I feel the same way!!

It is never thrown back in their faces that we are still in position 50 years after the end of their last really big war.
Oh, it is, but one must be at the right place, at the right time, in the right environment to hear the fleeting comment, before it is deeply buried in anti-war rhetoric.