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Congratulations Michael, now please, get help
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 14, 2005

Posted on 06/14/2005 7:32:32 AM PDT by Asphalt

Michael Jackson's fans were cheering and hugging each other Monday outside the courtroom where he was acquitted on all counts in his child molestation case. But it was impossible for us to get excited over the verdict. You could feel relief that this case was over and the 46-year-old "King of Pop" had gotten his day in court, but no number of "not guilty" pronouncements could erase the taint of the "lifestyle" choices that got him into trouble.

As Jackson was driven away in a funereal black vehicle, under the gaze of a now standard-issue helicopter camera, we wondered how he will respond to being freed of accusations some experts were sure he would be convicted of and even those who thought otherwise acknowledged came dangerously close to criminal behavior. Will the owner and aging lost boy of Neverland continue to insist he is pure of heart and spirit, did nothing wrong in sleeping with underage boys and faces no greater challenge than being misunderstood? Or will he respond to his brush with years in prison by facing up to his psychological problems and seeking help for them?

In saying "the healing process must begin," Jesse Jackson may have been talking about recovering from the grueling trial and its coverage. But Michael Jackson has deeper personal issues to deal with -- including, possibly, being in a state of denial. His strange appearance at the courtroom in his pajamas, his stomping on the roof of his SUV, his mystery trips to the E.R. certainly did nothing to establish his stability.

He will live with the knowledge that he owes his freedom to the prosecution's haphazard case as much as his pleas of innocence or any skillful turns by the defense to support them. This was a case, built and rebuilt over a decade by Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon, undone by prosecution witnesses seemingly hired by the defense. They included a young accuser who kept changing his story; the accuser's mother, who came off as a gold digger and, in allowing him to sleep in Jackson's bed, a derelict parent, and an ex-wife of Jackson's, Debbie Rowe, who was brought in by prosecutors to testify against him but spoke of what a wonderful father he was. This despite being involved in a custody battle with him.

In the end, even as this verdict is applauded for showing you're not guilty until proven so in this country, it will, for some, confirm the notion that celebrities get their way in the justice system. Will Jackson's biggest media moment since "Thriller" recharge his career, which was on an artistic and commercial decline before the molestation charges were raised? Perhaps if he stops blaming other people for his misfortunes and starts taking responsibility for them. But if he continues living in his fantasy world, any buzz from this trial will wear off as fast as cable news can find another scandal to obsess over.


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To: rwfromkansas
I would have found him guilty, even if he didn't molest this kid.

And if you admitted that on national television, it would be grounds for a successful appeal.

Juries are not about vengeance; they're about convicting on the facts of a particular case unless there is reasonable doubt.

You have no business serving on any jury.

121 posted on 06/14/2005 8:39:59 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: American Butterfly
If her child was molested then that child deserves to have justice served regardless if the mother may be a fruitcake.

If I were a juror on this case, I'd only convict Jackson if I could also convict the mother, too. The fact that Jackson was on trial while the kid's mother was never charged with child endangerment (for letting him stay at Neverland despite knowing full well that he was sleeping in Jackson's bed) is what kept me from giving half a sh!t about how the case ended.

122 posted on 06/14/2005 8:40:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: sinkspur

Sneddon did suck it up and he needs to be fired after this fiasco and never work again.

But, I would have hung the jury if necessary to keep him from being declared not guilty.


123 posted on 06/14/2005 8:40:40 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: CharacterCounts
"I think they should have held off even charging MJ unless and until they developed a more solid case. " what was left to develop: 140 witnesses and a closet full of evidence and that wasn't enough??? Obviously, the DA had nothing and went for the emotional verdict by mounding as much into this trial as possible. His star witnesses fell apart on cross and a major star witness is in jail for bank robbery and never testified in the court case after having testified to the Grand Jury.
124 posted on 06/14/2005 8:40:45 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Alberta's Child

So you don't care about the child himself, whether or not Jackson abused him. You just care about punishing the mother. So it's okay to let Jackson go free? I'm assuming from what you're saying that you think Jackson is indeed a child molester?


125 posted on 06/14/2005 8:41:10 AM PDT by blueblazes
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To: Cmonster

I disagree with everything in your post.

p.s. This is his FIRST trial that ended in a verdict.


126 posted on 06/14/2005 8:41:56 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: MizSterious

None of that changes the fact that the allegation has to be believable.

What exactly would you propose? that all allegations be believed without question? This kid and this family had a track record for fraud. Should that not be considered? I think we also do have to admit that the early unquestionability of these kinds of allegations has led to a rash of false allegations in everything from divorce cases to revenge against teachers and the like. Exactly what is the cure then?


127 posted on 06/14/2005 8:42:21 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: sinkspur

Well lucky for you, you don't get to decide if I serve or not.

I will do what is right, and Jackson is guilty. Regardless of whether the specific case was proven, I would vote guilty to protect the kids.

You obviously would rather protect Jackson than the innocent children.


128 posted on 06/14/2005 8:42:21 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: shellshocked

Mainly proof that Jackson surrounds himself with thugs, opportunists, and criminals--they're the only ones who can stomach what he does.


129 posted on 06/14/2005 8:42:23 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: rwfromkansas
I mean, he should go to jail just for sleeping with little boys.

If only one of the kids he slept with says that something untoward happened, and the jury doesn't believe that kid, how do you do that?

130 posted on 06/14/2005 8:42:43 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

I'm wondering what kind of evidence you would deem sufficient to actually convict Michael Jackson of child molestation? Obviously his public statement that he sleeps with young boys in the same bed isn't enough, nor is the case the DA put together enough. So what IS enough for a conviction?


131 posted on 06/14/2005 8:42:51 AM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes
Do you think Michael Jackson is innocent?

No, he's not "innocent." I wouldn't pick up the phone and call 911 to save that freak's life.

Having said that, I would also point out that in this case he was not necessarily "guilty" under the standards of criminal justice in this country.

Remember, when a defendent is acquitted, the jury hasn't determined that he's "innocent" -- they determine that he's "not guilty." That's a huge distinction that appears to be lost on a lot of folks here.

132 posted on 06/14/2005 8:42:58 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

That was the reason for being able to bring in the "past acts." It was to show a pattern. The jury chose to ignore it.


133 posted on 06/14/2005 8:43:27 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, I hope nothing happens to your children. And you had better hope that I'm not on the jury. I'll show you the same courtesy you've shown the accuser's mother in this case.


134 posted on 06/14/2005 8:43:46 AM PDT by American Butterfly
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To: TheOtherOne
Where are all these victims, surely they heard he was on trial.

Two previous Jackson acquaintances were paid off, and refused to testify.

135 posted on 06/14/2005 8:44:11 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: MizSterious

Unfortunately, they called 'past acts' who testified to no abuse (Caulkin)

Did the other child from the earlier case testify?


136 posted on 06/14/2005 8:45:16 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Alberta's Child

So how are you going to convict a man of child molestation in this country, if MIchael Jackson - the biggest, most obvious child molester in the WORLD, and someone who publicly and on television admits to sleeping with young boys in the same bed, gets off? What is "enough" evidence, when people don't care to convict him just on the basis of that one statement alone. Just the very statement he has made that he sleeps with young boys should be enough to convict him in all cases. What do you think he's doing with those kids?


137 posted on 06/14/2005 8:45:34 AM PDT by blueblazes
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To: MizSterious; HairOfTheDog
You are absolutely right about child molesters selecting and grooming their victims.

But the jury has to be told about that in the context of the testimony. They only get what the prosecutor presents to them.

If, as is stated elsewhere on this thread, the prosecutor FAILED to provide an expert in the area of child abuse, "grooming", and child abuse accommodation syndrome, he is a total incompetent.

When you add prosecutorial incompetence to the amount of dirt and sleaziness proved WRT to the mother in this case, you have a sure loser on your hands. The prosecutor had to KNOW he had a credibility problem with this parent and this child, the best way to counteract that would have been with an authoritative, credentialed expert who could lay out the story line for the jury. (A good prosecutor doesn't just showboat and hold press conferences - he gives the jury a story line to follow throughout the evidence.)

I can't believe he didn't do this. He must be the worst DA in California.

138 posted on 06/14/2005 8:46:01 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Cmonster
It's just that Surburban White America(SWA) really has little to fear from the justice system and law enforcement... Let me also assure you that it's not because SWA violtes the law less often, it's just that when they are caught violating the law, the charges are usually dropped or no jail time is served.

Bullsh*t. You are acting as though it's all about race. It's all about being able to afford a great criminal defense atty.

Just look at the disparity of incarceration rates between the races that the justice system released last year... Caucasins on average are arrested for illegal use of drugs as much as any race, but when it comes to serving time, blacks and hispanics invariably are the ones face the consequences of their own actions..

It is a fact that minorities committ more crimes. And again, the perps who get off usually do so because they can afford the best lawyers. It's not about race...

Just one word of advice for anyone who doesn't believe a word of what I'm saying: if ever in the future you're accused of a crime you didn't commit, you better ask your attorney to pick as many dark skinned individuals to be on the jurror panel as possible... We might be your only shot at someone truly believing you're innocent..

You're losing your own argument. Michael Jackson didn't have any dark skinned jurors and he was set free. So will you argue that Michael Jackson isn't REALLY a black man?

139 posted on 06/14/2005 8:46:29 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: blueblazes

"DO you believe Michael Jackson is innocent? Furthermore, do you think it's okay for a 45 year old man to be sleeping in the same bed with unrelated young boys?"


Yes, I believe he is innocent of molestation and of providing alcohol to minors.

I don’t think it is normal for a man to sleep with boys as often as he does, but it is not criminal.

Jackson has a serious mental problem. He has the mentality of a 12 year old. I suspect that is due to the abuse and traumatic childhood he endured. Many abused children have that problem: They fail to mature. Jackson loves children as playmates, not sex toys. He seems to see himself as a 12 year old. He needs therapy and the help to mature.

For a normal man with no mental problems, sleeping with children is suspect. For a man with an abused history and significant signs of failing to mature, it is not suspect of criminal behavior but a clear indication the person needs help.


140 posted on 06/14/2005 8:46:56 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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