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Uncivil Liberties in Maryland
MND ^ | Sunday, June 12, 2005 | Eva Ellsworth

Posted on 06/13/2005 8:40:46 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy

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1 posted on 06/13/2005 8:40:46 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
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A scary story...abuse of power...keep the others in line by making an example.


2 posted on 06/13/2005 8:44:09 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

The fourth amendment is totally dead. But at least teens can't drink. Somehow that doesn't seem like a good trade.


3 posted on 06/13/2005 8:44:24 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Welcome to the People's Republik of Montgomery County... home of "Nuclear Free" Takoma Park, where you don't even have to be a US citizen to vote in city elections. The place is full of leftover hippie socialists, limosine liberals, and loads of immigrants with the UN mentality.


4 posted on 06/13/2005 8:49:55 AM PDT by CurlyBill (There is NOTHING better than playoff hockey!!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

These people chose, of their own free will, to live in Montgomery County, Maryland, a known enclave of squish-heads. It is and has been for decades a People's Republic. Should not be surprised that Big Brother has arrived, he was waiting in the car all along.


5 posted on 06/13/2005 8:58:48 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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"We all know it is impossible to drink a non-alcoholic beverage from a disposable, plastic cup."

WRONG, not read the rest of this yet, but that right there is bogus

6 posted on 06/13/2005 8:59:02 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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darnit,,hit to post too quick

here is the way you do it,,, first, you need a gun, and then....

7 posted on 06/13/2005 9:00:28 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: 2banana
A scary story...abuse of power...keep the others in line by making an example.

And home of County Exec. Doug Duncan, wannabe gubernatorial hopeful of the Democrat Party. Will the Maryland Republican Party file this sort of behavior away for later use? ...doubtful.

8 posted on 06/13/2005 9:00:33 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

She should sue every party and entitiy she can find. Hopefully discovery will reveal the true motive for this disturbing incident.

The biggest myth in America today is that cops treat white people well. The little jack booted thugs are just as out of control with whites as with any other group. And I say that as a strong supporter of law enforcement, but a lot of cops ARE pigs.


9 posted on 06/13/2005 9:38:43 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: 3AngelaD

Bethesda-Chevy Chase HS, '70, here.

It has amazed me over the years to see what has happened to my old stomping grounds.

Montgomery County used to be very Republican, I can't remember exactly when it started to turn to the dark side. Of course, I used to be on the dark side then, and,hey, I saw the light. Maybe there is hope for the others.


10 posted on 06/13/2005 10:01:38 AM PDT by baseballmom
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To: sure_fine
"We all know it is impossible to drink a non-alcoholic beverage from a disposable, plastic cup."

The writer was obviously being sarcastic becasue he didn't find the inference reasonable.

11 posted on 06/13/2005 10:07:27 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I think after the driver's license request, in addition to calling the PD brass, I'd have called the local TV stations and see if any of them were interested in taping and broadcasting the cops at the end of my block intent on violating my Constitutional rights.


12 posted on 06/13/2005 10:09:22 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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"Such entry and testing without a warrant is unreasonable search and seizure.

I hate this phrase, "unreasonable search and seizure."

The way most people and many judges and police "interpret" the 4th amendment and I think incorrectly, is that police can search your car, your home, your person, without a warrant, as long as it is not "unreasonable."

That being the case, the 4th amendment is meaningless. Defining what is "unreasonable" is almost a case by case endeavor, time consuming and expensive to pursue.

If the 4th amendment was read correctly, it is obvious that a warrant is always needed when there is going to be people and items "searched...and...seized."

It is my contention that the first part of 4th amendment states the philosophy behind why a "warrant" is always needed for a search and seizure.

The proceudre required to obtain a "warrant" is designed to help protect the citizens against "unreasonable" search and seizures, which without such a procedure, the citizen is always subject to the officers mood and agenda, as illustrated in this article about the party in Maryland.

13 posted on 06/13/2005 10:18:36 AM PDT by tahiti
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i agree with you. that might explain why the idiot author thinks sobriety checkpoints are "ok" . notice he didn't say "constitutional". he probably thinks the use of drug sniffing dogs are ok too... all for the good of "public safety" of course (rolling eyes here).


14 posted on 06/13/2005 10:23:20 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: Still Thinking

maybe they were those toddler sipping cups....full of whiskey and vodka


15 posted on 06/13/2005 11:13:19 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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Those who fail to use seat belts endanger themselves, but pose no risk to others. If this is a free country, shouldn’t people be free to be stupid?

AMEN to that! A society that aims to protect adults from their own idiocy does much more harm than good. What are we going to see next, doctors sending state troopers door-to-door to make sure all registered diabetics are taking their insulin, and hauling them off to jail if they refuse? Seriously, stories like this can make civil libertarians of the rightest of right-wingers.

16 posted on 06/13/2005 12:00:00 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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The sad part is that some freepers think these laws are ok..


17 posted on 06/13/2005 12:27:34 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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I'm glad you cited the ridiculous notion that "sobriety checkpoints okay".

IMO, they fall under "unreasonable search and .....".

18 posted on 06/13/2005 12:38:11 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: KevinDavis

That is sad. I would think everybody who values freedom - as I believe most of us on this board do - would see these overreaching laws as intrusive and completely unnecessary.


19 posted on 06/13/2005 1:00:15 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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She should have claimed they were all illegals. The cops would have run away with their tails between their legs.
20 posted on 06/13/2005 1:05:19 PM PDT by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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