Posted on 06/11/2005 11:05:50 AM PDT by kcvl
Per Fox News...
Looks nice! If I was going to put a body in the ocean I think I would pick a spot where it was alot deeper.
If I was going to make up a story, I would NOT tell them the area where I buried, or dumped the body. I would name a place far away from the location, to divert them from actually finding her. Why would they just believe them? (Unless they thought someone has seen them to place them in the area, although that makes no sense, either, b/c no one seems to have told people anywhere they had been seen, as far as we know.)
I also read that they didn't find Joran and the brothers until 12:30 or so, 24 hours after Natalee disappeared, which gave them a long time to rid of the body. I hope other people are investigating where they were for most of the day/early morning. It sounds like the beaches/roads were completely empty.. and that there were no sightings of that gray Honda. No witnesses. So, why would anyone believe anything they said?
Aruba(business as usual)FBI is limited so this case can go unresolved. I know those agents are frustrated by this crap. NSNR
Believe it or not, I read that Joran went to school the next day. As for the brothers , college students, maybe. Their profiles weren't in english for the most part, but both of them said something about college. I have never read any morning alibi for them.
WHERE IS NATALEE ?
I believe the three concocted the bogus lighthouse story, but are changing their stories. It's the brother's against Joran. One or two hopefully with rat out the other(s).
Interesting post ...
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=25&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=160
This was posted by the woman who started the Trip Advisor board - and whose husband stayed behind to look for Natalee:
NATALEE WAS NOT THE GIRL WHO WAS SICK IN THE BATHROOM AT C&C's! My daughter had already told me she was puzzled by that story 'cause she neither saw nor heard anything of the kind regarding Natalee. We were at the vigil yesterday and they were discussing that... It turned out to be other girls on the trip. Somebody had mentioned that at church and these girls went, "Oh no! That was US!" It was definitely not Natalee. You can understand the error. Have you noticed from the photos that 80% of the girls look just alike?
My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed. My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates. Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran. My daughter only noticed that Joran was tall, dark-haired, American-looking; he did not speak and she couldn't read his facial expressions. Nat turned down my daughter's invitation to go with her little group. (Ironically, they were about to circle the inside of another club to make sure no others were left behind.) Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead. The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.) It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching. But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention. Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone.
Re: swimsuits. Many of the girls wore their suits under their street clothes almost everywhere. I think it's a nonissue, though, because I think it's clear she did not plan to go sightseeing, carousing, OR swimming. These brats are setting up more diversionary scenarios. This one in particular frightens me because it makes me think she cannot be alive, and her body may never be found. These past few days have been a horror.
Very interesting. Her daughter, I think, has been posting there as well. The daughter was also quoted in People magazine in a short article on the case.
Mark for later
I doubt she went swimming, too. The big question is where is she or her body? No evidence of anything. No clothing material, nothing.
I wonder if the local males of Aruba have been using that date rape drug? Does anyone from Natalees group think she may have been doped up yet not quite drowsy enough to appear unusual as she left the night club? Females should never leave their drink unattended in any bar in any country now a days. The risk is too high.
I doubt she went swimming, at least not while alive. :-(
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=847433&page=1
Antonius "Mickey" John, 30, who was released along with Abraham Jones, 28, told ABC's "Good Morning America" that Holloway had been dropped off at the Marriott, not the Holiday Inn, where she was staying. He said he had spoken to one of the other three men in custody.
"They made up the story about dropping the girl off at the Holiday Inn," John said. "He said, 'I took the girl from Carlos 'n Charlie's and went to the lighthouse.' He was driving, his brother in the front seat, the Dutch guy in the back behind his brother and the missing girl behind him in the back."
John said Holloway was dropped off close to the Marriott.
Per MSNBC:
New search for Natalee near hotel.
Lots of buzz on Scared Monkeys and Trip Advisor.
UNCONFIRMED
"***NEWS****
Vander straten informed ppress dutch...of al information and informed them that the case has been solved, and will give less htan 24 hours to announce the result...and aparently theirs many police that are moving towards area of marriott hotel completely CLOSED no one is allowed they are searchign something either them or the dogs are searchign somethign or if Natalee is here....it iis not known what is happeneing"
John Zarrella of CNN reporting that an area has been cordoned off around the Marriott Hotel and is being searched at the present. Also mentioned the statement of the 2 brothers that they had dropped Natalie and Joran off at the hotel.
Thanks.
(Scared Monkeys)
***NEWS***
Noord di Marriott HOtel they have closed off the road with baricades....police are alookign within trees and the sand...they have 150 meters about closed with barricades they ahve radio people on both sides of the area....they are north of marriott... these are the TOP95 news crew
There is also a pond there. Too many vehicles and people for us to not take this seriously, IMHO.
High rise hotels line the northeastern beaches of Aruba, Monday, June 13, 2005, the site where missing Alabama high school graduate Natalee Holloway stayed at the Holiday Inn, center right. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)
FOX said a young boy found women's underwear and used condoms.
May not be related. The area is close to the Marriott hotels and Holiday Inn. There is a small pond in the area.
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