I did a search and have not found this posted yet
1 posted on
06/10/2005 8:36:44 AM PDT by
Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The best known case involves popular talk show host Sean Hannity. While interviewing volunteers of the Minuteman Project last April in Arizona, Hannity inadvertently crossed the US/Mexico border for a few minutes then immediately returned. It was a simple mistake and easily understood in light of the pathetic security of our borders. However the ACLU, which led the good fight by trying to obstruct the Minutemen and goad them into conflicts while enabling the rampant invasion of illegals into our nation, decided this was an offense that could not be tolerated. Apparently upset at Hannitys drawing interest to the good work of the Minutemen, Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, under the auspices of the ACLU, demanded Hannitys arrest. First things first: The first post, in any ACLU thread posted on FR, should carry the following paragraph for context...
Roger Baldwin, the co-founder of the ACLU said: I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself.
I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. I dont regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it. In spite of Baldwins Communist leanings, President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom on January 16, 1981.
Baldwin didnt create the ACLU in a vacuum, he had plenty of help. A group of Communist Party officials, fellow travelers, anarchists and radicals joined Baldwin to found the ACLU in 1920.
Now then, a couple of questions and observations.
As I understand it, this foreign agent, " Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema" in concert with the Communist group consider an accidental border crossing "an offense that could not be tolerated", but simultaneous crossing in the opposite direction by hundreds, perhaps thousands of criminals (illegal entry is still a federal crime, close as I can tell) is freaking invisible"???
Seems to be a proper recall is in order for one, and charges of sedition for both. Yes, I believe a cultural war qualifies.
Where ae the groups with the motivation, moxie and clout to pursue this as a counterattack?
You need more funds? Just ask for them! This unrich American would be happy to contribute on a continuing basis!
31 posted on
06/10/2005 9:11:49 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: Kaslin
Hannity inadvertently crossed the US/Mexico border for a few minutes then immediately returnedAccording to Hannity he stepped through a hole in the fence into a 3 foot buffer zone that was still US territory. He never crossed into Mexico and returned.
Despite the lack of a "crime", the ACLU and Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema peed all over themselves with excitement and were demanding a public execution or something similar. Meanwhile thirty miles further along the border, illegals continued to stream in while they did nothing.
33 posted on
06/10/2005 9:16:10 AM PDT by
pfflier
To: Kaslin
I did a search and have not found this posted yetTry this.
34 posted on
06/10/2005 9:16:13 AM PDT by
upchuck
(If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: Kaslin
There are several other cases in recent weeks which further illustrate this trend. In Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, the ACLU has called for the arrest of school teachers and administrators because the ACLU does not feel they adequately exorcised all Judeo-Christian influences from their classrooms and cafeterias. This is actually a disastrous strategy for the ACLU, and a golden opportunity to drive the wooden stake through the heart of the ACLU vampire: create martyrs.
How many tachers and administrators who "stand their ground" can they arrest? How many students can they be allowed to inconvenience and injure?
On another facet of the potential development of this stupid strategy, what if, say, one million normal Americans pledge $1 a month put into a fund to support arrested teachers, administrators and their families while they are in jail? For as long as it takes?
I'm guessing that would take care of at least 150 prisoners of conscience and their families.
Double that contributon and it's still a pittance for the average American.
How long would the ACLU be able to afford that?
I would further suggest that any accused and arrested insist of individual trials!
I further expect that a significant number of businesses and wealthy patrons would step forward to provide additional funds.
It's a war they want?
37 posted on
06/10/2005 9:24:22 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: Kaslin
The biggest difference between the ACLU and the standard ambulance chaser that I can discern is that the ACLU is not looking for offenders with money, but one with Christian influence to lose. So I guess the ACLU is funded in some non ambulance chaser way.
39 posted on
06/10/2005 9:25:52 AM PDT by
biblewonk
(Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
To: Kaslin
The ACLU, like Senator Reid and Chairman Dean, is in fact God's gift to conservatives. The ACLU, Senator Reid and Chairman Dean help to galvanize the conservative movement. Because they are so outrageous, they help bring people to the polls who would otherwise stay home. We witnessed this last November.
Granted, the tactics used by the ACLU, Senator Reid and Chairman Dean are dangerous and destructive, but they expose the vicious underside of liberalism. They expose liberals for what they are: intolerant bigots.
To: Kaslin
43 posted on
06/10/2005 9:33:42 AM PDT by
Christian4Bush
("So...according to the UN, weapons that never existed are missing...again!" -Rush Limbaugh)
To: Kaslin
The ACLU should be investigated as a subversive COMMUNIST front group. After all, they were started by the COMMUNIST PARTY.
To: Kaslin
The ACLU is too well funded to falter.
To: Kaslin
May the lawyers of the hated ACLU burn in hell.
60 posted on
06/10/2005 10:16:38 AM PDT by
jpsb
(I already know I am a terrible speller)
61 posted on
06/10/2005 10:17:50 AM PDT by
AnOldCowhand
(The west is dead. You may lose a sweetheart, but you will never forget her - Charles Russell)
To: Kaslin
As much as I'd like to see the ACLU utterly destroyed, I think this is just so much wishful thinking. It's just too entrenched and powerful. Fight it yes, but destroy it? Sadly, that's doubtful.
62 posted on
06/10/2005 10:21:16 AM PDT by
Romish_Papist
(The times are out of step with the Catholic Church. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI.)
To: Kaslin
Illegal aliens, paedophiles, mass murderers, all are grist for the ACLU mill.
But Christians, the Bible and America's Judaeo-Christian traditions are all anathema to them.
If the House Un-American Activities Committee was resurrected, the ACLU would be #1 on their list, followed by NAMBLA.
66 posted on
06/10/2005 11:16:02 AM PDT by
ZULU
(Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: Kaslin
What once may have been an organization dedicated to high ideals has now degenerated into a literal threat to our liberty.They have always been a Marxist organization!!! They were set up to function as a Nihilist organization regarding the United States. They have done that job well... Resource item:
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Horowitzs Unholy Alliance, writes John Haynes, the noted historian of American Communism, is an insightful, brilliant examination of the mental world of the radical left. Horowitz shows how todays radicals, unwilling to reflect on the internal flaws that destroyed Marxism-Leninism from within, have embraced an all-consuming nihilism in its place. This has led them to a hatred of American institutions and a solidarity with Islamic terrorists that makes the radical left more properly regarded as dangerous than loony. Unholy Alliance is an eye-opening book that should unsettle conventional assumptions and reveals why intellectuals and political leaders who applaud Michael Moore are no laughing matter. As Harvey Klehr, author of Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, writes, The world Communist movement may be moribund, but its habits of mind and ideological fantasies have not disappeared. This is a fascinating and depressing account.
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67 posted on
06/10/2005 11:20:53 AM PDT by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
To: Kaslin
[ What once may have been an organization dedicated to high ideals has now degenerated into a literal threat to our liberty. ]
ACLU has ALWAYS been a threat to the Constitution and therefore our freeedom..
From the git-go..
Funny that the ACLU and George Bush(and the republican party) are on the SAME PAGE when it comes to illegal alien insurgents.. and against the Minutemen.. at the very least..
68 posted on
06/10/2005 11:32:09 AM PDT by
hosepipe
(This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
To: Kaslin
Personally, I hope our whole corrupt judicial system is also going down. Recent years have showed it is fatally flawed.
73 posted on
06/10/2005 1:07:11 PM PDT by
djreece
("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
To: Kaslin
79 posted on
06/10/2005 2:53:16 PM PDT by
Bogey78O
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To: Kaslin; jan in Colorado; AmericanArchConservative; USF
85 posted on
06/10/2005 6:15:28 PM PDT by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
To: Kaslin
When?
Asa far as I am concerned every alcu member can rot in Hell but I see no signs of their demise.
88 posted on
06/10/2005 8:19:40 PM PDT by
sport
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89 posted on
06/10/2005 8:22:26 PM PDT by
ATOMIC_PUNK
(secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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