Texas Officials, Parents Spar Over Girl's Cancer Treatment

06-09-05 | unknown

[clearsight]

Alternative cancer treatments and their successes make chemo and radiation look like throw back regimens for cave men.

[Fierce Allegiance]

I can easily beleive htis happening in my home state of Mass, but not Texas.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The cancer treatment industry has metastasized and requires unending streams of human misery to keep it alive.

The last thing on earth the cancer treatmen industry wants is a cure.

[ahayes]

Alternative cancer treatments and their successes make chemo and radiation look like throw back regimens for cave men.

Uhh, yeah. What alternative treatments would these be, and what successes are you speaking of?

[Fierce Allegiance]

CPS also took custody of Katie's three siblings because their mother refused to cooperate with their investigation into the issue

Freaking amazing.

[LizardQueen]

And people wonder why a lot of people opt out of having kids these days....


LQ

[clearsight]

Go to "Health Science Institute" (HSI) page on the web and read.......there are others.....this is not a topic that has been under discussion in a dark smoke filled, back room.
It is time to get informed........you are responsible for this.

[ahayes]

Crap. Why is it that snake oil is always advertised with lots of exclamation markes, underlining, and italics?

I certainly hope I'm going to be partially responsible for the development of new chemotherapy drugs, because that is what I am studying.

[clearsight]

The general medical establishments success rate at curing cancer in the U.S.A in general with current regimen (chemo/radiation) is only a mere 7% and it is questionable as to whether they can take any real credit for even that meager showing. This is the reason many opt to go over seas or over the border and get real help and a cure. Alternate treatment centers are springing up in the U.S.A., armed heavily with their own lawyers and legal teams to protect them from the medical establishment (AMA)and the ever co-operating media misinformation bunch.

[Fierce Allegiance]

I would hate to make some of the decisions CPS type people have to make, but it seems to me like they get it wrong 100% of the time. Leave kids w/ parents who prostitute them out, take them away from decent loving christian homes, etc.

[FormerLib]

Silly me, I didn't know the state was empowered to take hostages!

[tfecw]

This is what pushed me way over to the parents side...

"Last week, authorities issued an Amber Alert to gain custody of Katie after receiving an anonymous tip about possible neglect. "

Is that all it takes is an anonymous tip that you beat your kids and and ABB is put out for you and the government's...err your kids?
Freaken scary. I don't know enough about Hodgkin's/cancer/etc to really comment on it. I am curious to how the parents *know* that the cancer is in remission.

[Fierce Allegiance]

More than just a little scary, eh? There will be no recourse against the kidnappers, either.

[Strategerist]

The general medical establishments success rate at curing cancer in the U.S.A in general with current regimen (chemo/radiation) is only a mere 7%

Leukemia didn't go from a certain death sentence to survived by most through mumbo-jumbo hippie alternative medicine; it was that hard medical science and those doctors you hate.

[John Robertson]

"The last thing on earth the cancer treatmen industry wants is a cure."

I've heard this. My whole life. But I've never been exposed to any real, empirical data that would let me know there are actual, viable alternatives out there. One case doesn't count, as that could be the one where the cancer mysteriously vanished as it would have anyway (as it does, now and then).

No one has ever been able to answer this:

If the "medical/pharmaceutical industry" is "keeping" the "real cures" from us because they want to continue profiting from ineffective treatments...what happens when one of their children gets cancer?

Do they say (behind closed doors, in whispers), I can't use the coffee-squid ink poultice on little Charley's tumor, because it will work so well that everybody will then know we've been using treatments that we know don't work? So I guess we let little Charley just die. Yeah.

[Strategerist]

This is a hard one. There is a part of me that says the State of Texas should back off and let the parents make the medical decisions for the girl. But denial that thier daugter is sick and dieing may be overwealming, and not allowing them to make rational decisions.

Will be monitoring this thread for a Schiavo-related hypocrisy alert.

[TXBubba]

said their daughter's Hodgkin's disease is in remission and she doesn't need radiation treatment after undergoing a round of chemotherapy.

Since they put her under a round of chemo, I don't think they are in denial about her illness. There must be more to this story. Frankly it looks like some doctors might want to use her for medical experiments.

[ahayes]

Which cancer are you speaking of? Some cancers (like pancreatic cancer) have a high fatality rate, but others are regularly cured. Hodgkin's disease, which this girl has, has a 94% survival rate over 5 years with radiation and chemotherapy, and most patients go on to a complete cure.

Many cancers cannot be considered cured until they have been in remission for 5-10 years, and sometimes even more. I have a suspicion that your 7% source is ignoring the large number of people in remission (many of whom will go on to be cured) and is only comparing fatalities with people who are considered completely cured.

Where are they going overseas for treatment? Treatment in all developed nations is similar for cancer. Doctors do keep up with developments in cancer treatment by other nations.

In my opinion most alternative treatment successes are a combination of luck and the placebo effect. From what I read on the web most of these people are completely ignorant of what goes on in disease processes at a biochemical level and are just stumbling about in the dark.