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To: rwfromkansas
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the father but through me."

Calvinism teaches exactly the opposite. Accepting Jesus as your personal savior is completely meaningless, according to Calvinism.

You don't know that Jesus is the way?

But he isn't, if we are all pre-destined.

371 posted on 06/08/2005 3:04:46 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Modernman

No....everyone has to COME TO FAITH IN CHRIST to be saved.

Predestination allows that to occur, but it is not a substitute for it.

I think a lot of our problem is you guys aren't understanding what predestination really is. It is not God choosing you and then you are done.

It is part of the salvation process clearly explained in Romans 8:29-30 that has numerous steps. It is just one step.

God's choice was completed before the foundation of the world, but the Holy Spirit still must come into our life and we must accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Just because God chose us does not mean it is the end of things. We still must be saved after hearing the gospel because that is what changes our heart.


374 posted on 06/08/2005 3:08:58 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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