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Google Valued at 80.82 Billion
Yahoo! ^

Posted on 06/06/2005 2:43:11 PM PDT by Asphalt

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To: Asphalt
Current valuation...

gOOgle!

After the bubble bursts...

google

61 posted on 06/06/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Asphalt

People did not learn their lesson with companies like Yahoo, and RedHat..


62 posted on 06/06/2005 4:00:50 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: BlackRain

Hey it's high and they want to sell and get some money.

I didn't say it would keep going up in value at all, much less that it would keep going up like it has forever. I said they have a solid revenue stream and probably aren't any more overvalued than most of the other stocks out there. Don't put words in my mouth.


63 posted on 06/06/2005 4:03:33 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: jdm

AT LEAST slightly overvalued, which leaves the door open for companies that are grotesquely overvalued.

P/E matters if you're a buy and hold guy, most of the folks on the market these days are roulette players, for them P/E means nothing, which is why the market is so volatile the last few years, lots of people just placing bets and spinning wheels.


64 posted on 06/06/2005 4:05:41 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: MediaMole

Whoa, ye of little faith...

I think google will have a bright future and you guys will regret not buying when you could have.


65 posted on 06/06/2005 4:07:50 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded
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To: BlackRain
The fact that the guy who's in charge of revenue generation at Google has sold more than $50,000,000 of his own GOOG stock over the past week is pretty telling.

Omid Kordestani
Senior Vice President, Global Sales and Business Development

As the individual responsible for Google's revenue generation efforts, Omid Kordestani is the tireless leader of an international sales effort that has brought Google to profitability in record time. Kordestani has more than a dozen years of high-technology consumer and enterprise experience, including key positions at Internet pioneer Netscape Communications. As vice president of Business Development and Sales, Kordestani grew Netscape's website revenue from an annual run-rate of $88 million to more than $200 million in 18 months.

Kordestani joined Netscape as director of OEM Sales, and during his four-year career at that company he was responsible for establishing major customer relationships with Citibank, AOL, Amazon, Intuit, Travelocity, Intel, @Home, eBay, and Excite. Prior to Netscape, Kordestani held positions in marketing, product management, and business development at The 3DO Company, Go Corporation, and Hewlett-Packard.

Kordestani received an MBA from Stanford University and a bachelor of science degree in electrical engineering from San Jose State University.

66 posted on 06/06/2005 4:08:51 PM PDT by jdm (Estoy En Una Radio Mexicana (I'm On A Mexican Radio))
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To: N3WBI3
If Google is such a great investment then why not invest in Yahoo? Yahoo has better earnings and P/E ratio and at a much lower price than Google.

Google Stock

Market Cap: 80.82B
Revenue (ttm): 3.79B
Net Income (ttm): 704.34M
P/E (ttm): 115.00
PEG (5 yr expected): 1.81
P/S (ttm): 20.52
Price per share: $290.94


Yahoo Stock


Market Cap: 53.79B
Revenue (ttm): 3.99B
Net Income (ttm): 942.90M
P/E (ttm): 59.91
PEG (5 yr expected): 2.22
P/S (ttm): 13.27
Price per share: $38.52
67 posted on 06/06/2005 4:10:04 PM PDT by BlackRain
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To: Eyes Unclouded
"I think google will have a bright future and you guys will regret not buying when you could have."

I agree Google will have a bright future as well......just with a lower stock price.
68 posted on 06/06/2005 4:11:04 PM PDT by jdm (Estoy En Una Radio Mexicana (I'm On A Mexican Radio))
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To: BlackRain
"If Google is such a great investment then why not invest in Yahoo? Yahoo has better earnings and P/E ratio and at a much lower price than Google."

Because Yahoo isn't "cool" anymore (that's the short answer). Yahoo is so 1999.
69 posted on 06/06/2005 4:13:18 PM PDT by jdm (Estoy En Una Radio Mexicana (I'm On A Mexican Radio))
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To: jdm
Because Yahoo isn't "cool" anymore (that's the short answer). Yahoo is so 1999.

I am not recommending anyone buy Yahoo either, just put up the comparison to show how crazy the price of Google is.
70 posted on 06/06/2005 4:14:47 PM PDT by BlackRain
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To: jdm

And because Yahoo is losing marketshare hand over fist. And they're run by idiots that take 3 months to turn an ISP account off and in the process of doing so find out they haven't charged the person for 6 months. Yahoo is a sinking ship since the SBC merger.


71 posted on 06/06/2005 4:15:27 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: BlackRain
"I am not recommending anyone buy Yahoo either, just put up the comparison to show how crazy the price of Google is."

I understand. My previous post was sarcasm.
72 posted on 06/06/2005 4:15:39 PM PDT by jdm (Estoy En Una Radio Mexicana (I'm On A Mexican Radio))
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To: Asphalt

Why didn't anybody on this thread reference Google's income and profits? Though I am a naiif to Wall Street Finance lingo, the Yahoo site shows Google making a 1.73 billion gross profit and a 3.79 billion income. That seems pretty good to me, but it pales in comparison to Time-Warner's stats. Considering the growth potential of the Internet market, Google stock might be a reasonable risk, but I don't know how to evaluate that myself.


73 posted on 06/06/2005 4:15:55 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: jdm
Early 2000 taught us that P/E does matter

That would be may 17th, 2000 to be exact. The day that techs started a 15% decline over the next 5 trading days and the start of a pit which most have never climbed out of. And they took the rest of the market with them, especially the NASD. 9-11 really slammed an already wounded market and we have basically been sideways since we crawled back between 9-11-01 and late 2003

I would not bank on Google. In my simple world, a company is worth about 9-11 times earnings which means Google is right now worth about 10-20 billion. So it's 4-8 times overvalued.

I know goodwill and projections are part of the game but at this point it's a spec play.

I will grant with interest rates so low and cap rates somewhat high that P/Es can be rationalized higher than is the historical norm but anything above low 20s is lots of hope. Good luck to all.

74 posted on 06/06/2005 4:17:56 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Dumb_Ox
Forget Google; I'm investing in Sendrax. They've got some new kind of technique for televising opera. Some sort of electronic thingy.
75 posted on 06/06/2005 4:18:58 PM PDT by jdm (Estoy En Una Radio Mexicana (I'm On A Mexican Radio))
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To: Dumb_Ox
Why didn't anybody on this thread reference Google's income and profits? Though I am a naiif to Wall Street Finance lingo, the Yahoo site shows Google making a 1.73 billion gross profit and a 3.79 billion income. That seems pretty good to me, but it pales in comparison to Time-Warner's stats.

Let's get this straight. Time Warner is makes $13 billion more in profit than Google but Google is worth more?

Time Warner Inc (TWX) Stock

Revenue (ttm): 42.39B
Revenue Per Share (ttm): 9.275
Qtrly Revenue Growth (yoy): 2.90%
Gross Profit (ttm): 17.64B
EBITDA (ttm): 10.05B
Net Income Avl to Common (ttm): 3.46B
Diluted EPS (ttm): 0.72
Qtrly Earnings Growth (yoy): 0.20%
Share Price: 17.02
76 posted on 06/06/2005 4:23:33 PM PDT by BlackRain
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Google might be a good $50 stock, it will never be a good $300 stock... but was good for those who were able to get in on the ground floor and get out early enough.


77 posted on 06/06/2005 4:24:16 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Asphalt
Is it just another search engine? Remember when DOS was just an operating system?

Oh, wait, DOS is still just an operating system, and this search engine is as impressive as any search engine, which have always been part of Internet. What, is Google a monopoly now?

78 posted on 06/06/2005 4:25:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Final notice)
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To: Asphalt

Yesterday the New York Times ran a planted puff piece on Dick Parsons. In the article he admitted burning his family's home to the ground when he was seven years old and that family members were treated at a hospital.
He said he was playing with matches.

I rest my case.


79 posted on 06/06/2005 4:25:41 PM PDT by TET1968
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To: Eyes Unclouded

There was somebody came up here to FR and said that at $60, MSFT was ready to take off. Only thing that took off was that poster.


80 posted on 06/06/2005 4:27:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Final notice)
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