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Michael Jackson Verdict Watch (Live Thread-[Update-Not Guilty ALL Counts])
Court TV; MSNBC; Fox ^ | June 3, 2005

Posted on 06/03/2005 12:26:19 PM PDT by Howlin

Bayliffs being sworn in, alternatives have been sent home!

This circus is about to be in the hands of the jury!

Bets? Predictions?


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To: CFC__VRWC

Very sad, the Mother obviously is an opportunist, the family very dysfunctional BUT there is not a chance in hell that Jackson is NOT a child molestor.


3,861 posted on 06/13/2005 2:47:02 PM PDT by WestCoastGal ("Elvis made a few bad movies," he grinned. "This too shall pass.")
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To: dfwgator
"And overseas, he will still be a mega-star."

It was reported that the BBC stopped all there programming to show the verdict.

3,862 posted on 06/13/2005 2:47:38 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

No she wasn't.

Howlin responded directly to the "N" bomb post without blinking am eye.


3,863 posted on 06/13/2005 2:47:47 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Smogger

Which is what a jury is supposed to do. You are supposed to go into the court room without any preconceived judgments and be able to separate yourself from your personal opinions and judge the facts.


3,864 posted on 06/13/2005 2:48:41 PM PDT by WeddingPlanner
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To: Inspectorette

Sneddon did what he was supposed to do..try to protect the community from a child molester...He is retiring after 24 years as DA..He tried and failed but I know more about MJ's propensity to molest now and I hope parents are no longer seduced into supplying MJ with bedmates.


3,865 posted on 06/13/2005 2:48:48 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Syncro

He is starting to look like some of the Rolling Stones. Come to think of it, he is already not far from geezerhood.


3,866 posted on 06/13/2005 2:49:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Some may think I am a methodist)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Was he a murderer? No, just a sick person (and I don´t mean the same "sick" as it is used for perps!), and he got a therapy. Btw, our judges don´t need to prove that someone is guilty. They need to be convinced of his guilt, that´s a difference. But, our prosecutors (as well as the defence) may appeal to higher courts.


3,867 posted on 06/13/2005 2:49:28 PM PDT by Michael81Dus (Deutschland kommt wieder!)
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To: onyx
That family lost the case. They are grifters.

Absolutely true. The mother's testimony was horrific, especially when she invoked her 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination with respect to welfare fraud. Some victims are definitely not sympathetic, but this family was simply not credible at all.
3,868 posted on 06/13/2005 2:49:34 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: Inspectorette

I believe that Sneddon is a stronger man than that.

I also believe that Sneddon was right. He tried to do the right thing. I want people like him to keep trying to do the right thing--even if a jury proves to be too--something--to do the hard-but-right thing.

I hope Sneddon knows that many people admire his efforts.

BTW: If the jury doesn't have the guts to face the media after this, they really prove to me that they were simply too weak to do the right thing.


3,869 posted on 06/13/2005 2:49:48 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Inspectorette

Mez has been a millionaire for
donkey's years. That's how he
got hired. That's how Geragos
got hired in the beginning.
G., got $180,000 for two weeks
work for mj and G. doesn't know
what he did to earn those kind
of bucks. Except he held the
family's passports in his safe
and didn't know they were there.
yeah....riiiiiiigghhtttt......


3,870 posted on 06/13/2005 2:50:13 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Howlin

I guess it's party time at the ranch.....Well, Howlin...this isn't what we were praying for...I hope he moves to France...there's a fresh crop of little boys over there..


3,871 posted on 06/13/2005 2:50:40 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; Peach

Howlin, even a suspect family of accusers I don't think can explain this by itself, even though several have said so.

However, if you disbelieve them, or any witness, I think you need independent corroberation, do you not, in order to find guilt? If they threw out the suspect family's testimony, then they would look for something apart from that to prove it. My thinking is, either they could not find enough independent of the family to convince them, or they actually strongly did not want to find Jackson guilty because he's Jackson, and therefore did not look for it.

What they would look for instead was any and everything that fit the defense theory of the case.

I am with you that they did not want to find him guilty of anything. Might not have been due to his race, but to his celebrity. Because let's face it, they put a pedophile back on the street.

Some will claim a poor prosecution put him there, but a nullified jury bears blame as well.


3,872 posted on 06/13/2005 2:50:45 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: All
I sent an e-mail to my daughter with the verdict and she sent this e-mail back to me. :-) LOL!

Well I guess they were going after the wrong person. It must have been his Monkey "Bubbles".

I heard that Michael was seen shopping at WalMart. He heard that "Boy's pants were half off" Heehehe:)

3,873 posted on 06/13/2005 2:51:10 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: mystery-ak

and french boys surrender like crazy


3,874 posted on 06/13/2005 2:51:18 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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3,875 posted on 06/13/2005 2:51:19 PM PDT by Amore (First, let's kill all the lawyers!)
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To: Smogger

I agree, and aside from the closing argument which was apparently quite effective, I think the prosecutors did a p***-poor job trying this case. I've thought this was going to be an acquittal ever since Jackson's ex-wife blindsided the prosecution in her testimony. Michael Jackson is seriously weird. I am convinced right down to my bone marrow that he's probably a child molester and a pedophile. The thing is, in this country one must prove those things in court. Just because me or 10 other people or 1,000 other people or a million other people think those things are true doesn't mean it should send him to prison.


3,876 posted on 06/13/2005 2:52:27 PM PDT by GB
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To: RightWhale

mj's a dirty old man who diddles with young, innocent, weak members of our society. He's a piece of filth. He builds a "mouse trap" and sculpts himself into what he thinks is more attractive to the innocents.

At the end of this, he's even more vile...and much more dangerous.


3,877 posted on 06/13/2005 2:52:44 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Amore
As I recall, you were talking about Peterson. You seriously think it was his attorney's fault? If so, stay tuned for Scotty's standard-defendant's post-conviction motion alleging ineffective assistance of trial counsel. Care to bet whether he succeeds?

Considering that he Peterson convicted on 100% circumstantial evidence, yes I think his lawyers blew it. I don't see how the ineffective counsel argument would ever work in a case like this. No the prosecution was far better, and the jury ate it up. If he had a different jury and different lawyers? Maybe he would have gotten off.

3,878 posted on 06/13/2005 2:52:47 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I think the jury was repulsed by the mother and the kid. Welfare cheats can't help a prosecutor win a case.


3,879 posted on 06/13/2005 2:53:33 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Michael81Dus
Do jurists make a small fortune in Germany for letting criminals walk like ours do here?

Watch for books to be published soon.........

3,880 posted on 06/13/2005 2:53:42 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Prayers for healing and relief from pain for Cowboy...........)
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