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Democracy will take India ahead of China: Rumsfeld(that's subtle:-))
The Times of India ^ | 06/03/05

Posted on 06/03/2005 8:11:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Democracy will take India ahead of China: Rumsfeld

AFP[ FRIDAY, JUNE 03, 2005 08:09:31 PM ]

SINGAPORE: US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Friday that he expected US military ties with India to strengthen over the coming years and predicted that China's influence would decline unless it moved to a freer political system.

"It's pretty clear where India's going, and one would anticipate the relationship with India will continue to strengthen as we go through the period ahead," Rumsfeld said before he arrived here on Friday afternoon.

"With respect to China, it's not completely clear which way they're going because of the tension... between the nature of their political system and the nature of their economic system," he told reporters.

Rumsfeld compared and contrasted the prospects of the two Asian giants as he flew here from Washington to attend an annual international security conference that draws defense ministers from around the region.

In remarks to reporters travelling with him, he would not be drawn on the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program and alluded only glancingly to a Chinese military buildup that has caused concern in Washington.

But he was expected to air US concerns on both North Korea and China's military spending in a keynote speech on Saturday to the conference organized by the International Institute of Strategic Studies as well as in one-on-one meetings with other defense ministers.

His comments to reporters made clear that the Pentagon is looking to India as an anchor in its security relationships in the region. Rumsfeld recalled that he made the first overtures to India within weeks of becoming defense secretary in 2001.

"We have what I would characterize as an excellent relationship with India. From a military-to-military standpoint it has improved in strength every year over the past four and a half years," he said.

The military relationship, which has included joint excercises, "has been very much leading the other aspects of the relationship, which is a good thing," he said.

"We are finding many things to cooperate on," he said. Calling India a "major power," the secretary highlighted its standing as the world's largest democracy, its "relatively free economic system," and its educated population.

"With respect to the Peoples Republic of China, it is what it is. It's a big country, with a fairly rapid growth rate," he said.

"Its defense budget is growing apace with their economy, and they are a major weapons purchaser in the world, largely from Russia but from other countries as well, and have been deploying a great many ballistic missiles and ships and other military capabilities over a period of years now," he said.

"The tension will grow as they move through the years," he said.

"To the extent that the Republic of China leans toward a freer political system they will be a considerably more successful country and a more influential country in the world," he said.

"To the extent they don't do that there will be pressures against their economy, they will grow less fast, and they will be a less influential country in the world," he said.

This is only Rumsfeld's third trip to Asia during his current tenure as defense minister. He is scheduled to travel to Thailand on Sunday, and then to Norway early next week for talks before a NATO defense minister's meeting in Brussels.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alliance; china; democracy; geopolitics; globalism; india; southasia
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It appears to me that Rumsfeld made his choice clear. China is out and India is in. U.S.--Japan--Taiwan--India, the emerging counter-China alliance.
1 posted on 06/03/2005 8:11:07 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/03/2005 8:11:30 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
You left out Australia
3 posted on 06/03/2005 8:13:06 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist

"To the extent that the Republic of China . . . "

Love Rummy, but the 'Republic of China' is Taiwan;
the mainland is the 'People's Republic. . . '.


4 posted on 06/03/2005 8:20:29 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CasearianDaoist
Re #3

Well, Australia is solidly against Jihadis, but their stance on China is not really convincing for some reason. Maybe they think that they have too much economic interest at stake.

5 posted on 06/03/2005 8:21:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Re #4

Yeah, I noticed that, too.

6 posted on 06/03/2005 8:22:08 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

plus Australia has a poulation of what, 25 million? C'mon. Those guys are more worried about becoming a parking lot for the Chinese navy. I'm with Rumsfeld and would throw in they speak English and have some semblance of the British administrative system in place. India has alot of work to do, but it can clearly be a big winner in the 21st century.


7 posted on 06/03/2005 8:25:39 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Looks like Russia might be with us too. Things are looking better...

U.S.--Japan--Taiwan--India

8 posted on 06/03/2005 8:27:07 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ

Yep, and Australia's our most loyal friend.


9 posted on 06/03/2005 8:28:05 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He's right.


10 posted on 06/03/2005 8:28:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (.)
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To: CondorFlight
Love Rummy, but the 'Republic of China' is Taiwan; the mainland is the 'People's Republic. . . '.

Then again, you, Rummy and I know how much of the 'People's "Republic"' actually belongs to the Chinese people, the ones who crave for democracy.

11 posted on 06/03/2005 9:01:46 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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fyi


12 posted on 06/03/2005 9:14:11 AM PDT by GretchenM (They are rich who have friends. - Scandanavian proverb)
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This is only Rumsfeld's third trip to Asia during his current tenure as defense minister

What a slacker!

/sarcasm

It's not like he's had nothing else to do.

13 posted on 06/03/2005 9:15:10 AM PDT by GretchenM (They are rich who have friends. - Scandanavian proverb)
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To: GOPJ


Check out the army's website...we're doing joint combat excercise's with a battalion of Russian troops this week in Germany...frist time since WWII.


14 posted on 06/03/2005 9:15:39 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: ekidsohbelaas

ping! bump


15 posted on 06/03/2005 9:33:49 AM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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To: GretchenM

thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 06/03/2005 9:39:57 AM PDT by Pippin
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Thank's for the ping BullDog108.



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17 posted on 06/03/2005 9:48:08 AM PDT by ekidsohbelaas
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Divide, conquer.

I love Rummy!


18 posted on 06/03/2005 10:15:01 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: ekidsohbelaas

On please.


19 posted on 06/03/2005 10:15:42 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
excuse my ignorance, but why is our defense sec. ruminating on India, not exactly a strong defense ally, more of a trading partner...don't get me wrong, I love Rummy, but wonder about this trip
20 posted on 06/03/2005 11:24:29 AM PDT by Charles Wickman (Cheney in '08!)
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