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Mountain Brook girl disappears during senior trip to Aruba
AP via AL.com ^ | 6/1/2005 | AP

Posted on 06/02/2005 8:02:49 AM PDT by SamFromLivingston

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To: Protagoras

Yes


101 posted on 06/02/2005 9:30:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SamFromLivingston
White slavery, maybe?

She's blond...young?

Stranger things have happened.

Or maybe I'm just influenced by the Val Kilmer movie I saw recently....

102 posted on 06/02/2005 9:32:01 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Victor
Have you ever been to Aruba? We own a timeshare there, have spent a lot of time in the "interior" and find it hard to compare it to Mogadishu.

Actually yes - 3 weeks with the army training up their forces for anti-drug operations. Needless to say, I saw the entire island (except for the aforementioned resorts). Open sewers, car jackings, drive bys, etc. There is a reason why the "resort shuttles" going to/from the airport drive fast with their door locked...

I guess it could be worse, it could be the island of Jamaica...holy cow... the interior of that place is a real war zone.

103 posted on 06/02/2005 9:32:16 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Hildy

Rumor out of Birmingham implies the girl is still alive and mercenaries have been hired to get her. The father went to Sanford Univ. and his friends from college, who are still in Birmingham, believe he was at one time involved in some sort of Special Ops branch of the military. The father flew down immediately after learning of the girl's failure to return and friends of the family flew down on a Books-A-Million jet yesterday. My source in Birmingham is making a few calls and will call me back with additional details after lunch.


104 posted on 06/02/2005 9:32:26 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: cyborg
Hyperbole yes but not stupid. Living in fear is very cripping and prevents a person from experiencing God's best for their lives.

Cyborg, I usually respect your opinion, but not this time.
The original statement implicitly and carelessly equated "fear" with situational awareness and judgement.

105 posted on 06/02/2005 9:36:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Before)
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To: Quilla
Rumor out of Birmingham implies the girl is still alive and mercenaries have been hired to get her.

I pray that is correct. Sounds like the family is doing the right things, don't wait on our government or their government to do anything.....take care of business yourself.

106 posted on 06/02/2005 9:36:55 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Guenevere

Not likely in the Caribbean but not unheard of in muslim countries and some far east places like Japan. At least two of the girls my sister went to school with stayed behind in Japan to do stripping. Not slavery but probably not what their parents had in mind either.


107 posted on 06/02/2005 9:37:01 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: Publius6961
The original statement implicitly and carelessly equated "fear" with situational awareness and judgement.

No it didn't.

108 posted on 06/02/2005 9:37:53 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: Publius6961

I hope that wasn't his intent.


109 posted on 06/02/2005 9:40:23 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: cyborg
My sister went to Europe with her class and had no problems and she was seventeen.

I personally know a woman who also survived a trip when she was 18, and the things she did and experienced would curl your hair; no, neither her family nor most people were ever aware of what actually happened, to this day. They also honesty would swear, "no problems".

110 posted on 06/02/2005 9:40:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Before)
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To: Paved Paradise
I just had a sick feeling she was a blonde.

Interesting and that agrees very closely with what a friend of mine, who is retired from Army Intelligence and spent a lot of time in Latin America, told me.

We were discussing a pretty girl who worked as a secretary for the Army who made a lot of trips to El Salvadore for some reason. He told me an American girl who has light colored hair would be considered extremely valuable for intelligence work because she would be so desireable.

BTW, this guy was second generation Italian and had black hair.

111 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:18 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Protagoras

You compared not allowing your kid to leave the country to "living in fear." That is what was incorrect and what I responded to. There was clearly no trusted adult, or at least far too few, if she was getting into or out of vehicles with 3 men unknown to other people on the trip.


112 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:22 AM PDT by 1L
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To: yellowdoghunter
Exactly. I hope other parents learn a lesson from this. Teenagers have no business leaving the country,

Sorry, I disagree. Living in fear is the same as being dead.

There are many reasons to travel and many ways to plan the trips. Many are good reasons and many are good plans. Some are not.

27 posted on 06/02/2005 10:19:48 AM CDT by Protagoras
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113 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:59 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: SamFromLivingston

When I was in 8th grade our French class went to Quebec for a week. You wouldn't beleive the things we did Montreal after the teachers went to sleep. In 8th grade! My kids are never going on any of these trips without me.


114 posted on 06/02/2005 9:42:33 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Publius6961

My sister went with her class and some girls did try stuff. One girl did get drunk and go off with a guy and they sent her home on a plane early :(


115 posted on 06/02/2005 9:43:30 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: Gunrunner2

For all we know she was drinking tonic water all evening. To assume that she was drunk seems to be attempt to blame her for the actions of others if she indeed has fallen into dire circumstances.
From what I read, all that the article said is that her location is unknown. All else is surmise.


116 posted on 06/02/2005 9:44:08 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: 1L
You compared not allowing your kid to leave the country to "living in fear."

Because it is. I stand by that. The comment didn't say "under certain circumstances" or "with proper planning". It said what it said.

That is what was incorrect and what I responded to.

It was correct.

117 posted on 06/02/2005 9:44:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: Protagoras
No it didn't.

I certainly hope you're not suggesting that you're entitled to control my inferences from, perhaps, carelessly written thoughts.

118 posted on 06/02/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Before)
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To: yarddog

Bump for later.


119 posted on 06/02/2005 9:46:40 AM PDT by KevinB
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To: Quilla

Doesn't matter, Ann Archy knows better than you do.


120 posted on 06/02/2005 9:46:40 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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