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To: Fester Chugabrew
the statement "separation between church and state" was made up by a liberal it has nothing to do with the constitution.

The constitution just stipulates that government shall not establish a state religion (ie. Church of England)
2 posted on 06/01/2005 9:33:51 AM PDT by Nyboe ( if rich democrats really want the rich to be taxed more ... then by all means TAX RICH DEMOCRATS)
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To: Nyboe
the statement "separation between church and state" was made up by a liberal it has nothing to do with the constitution.

Thomas Jefferson was a liberal? BWAHAHAHA!

4 posted on 06/01/2005 9:36:19 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Nyboe

Doesn't it seem to be true by definition, that if there is no state religion, then religion and the state are separate?


7 posted on 06/01/2005 9:51:16 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Nyboe
The constitution just stipulates that government shall not establish a state religion (ie. Church of England)

Correction. The Constitution states that Congress shall not establish a Federal Religion. It also states that it cannot meddle with State action on the subject. In other words, although I do not advocate it, the Founders were perfectly tolerant of the idea of a State Church--and there were such at the time.

See Leftwing Word Games & The First Amendment.

William Flax

26 posted on 06/01/2005 12:25:41 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Nyboe
It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made "separation of church and state" a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices.

Ironic isn't it?

75 posted on 06/02/2005 5:50:02 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Nyboe

Your very right. A historian that I heard recently states that the phrase separation of church and state is not found in any of the original American historical documents, including personal correspondence. It is found in the communist manifesto.


113 posted on 06/04/2005 8:32:34 AM PDT by Rhadaghast
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To: Nyboe

>>> The constitution just stipulates that government shall not establish a state religion (ie. Church of England) <<<

I believe the Constitution states the Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion The "government" is not mentioned. The 1st Amendment also states the Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Justice Joseph Story, in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution, explains the religious clauses of the 1st Amendment.


202 posted on 06/05/2005 4:54:20 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1)
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