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Air Force Cadet E-Mails Religious Quotes
The Washington Post ^ | 1 June 2005 | Robert Weller

Posted on 06/01/2005 9:18:27 AM PDT by pickemuphere

DENVER -- On the eve of his graduation, the top cadet at the Air Force Academy sent out a religious-themed e-mail to thousands of fellow cadets, even as the school is grappling with complaints that some evangelical Christians are harassing others at the school.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the e-mail sent Tuesday by Wing Commander Nicholas Jurewicz to the freshmen, sophomore and junior classes, which is about 3,000 cadets. "Wing commander" is the title held by the top senior at the school in military ranking.

Jurewicz lists his favorite quotations in the message, including several about Jesus. One quotation, "Bear one another's burdens, and so you will fulfill the law of Christ," is a biblical verse.

The academy has been under investigation because of complaints that evangelical Christians have harassed cadets who do not share their faith, in violation of the constitutional separation of church and state.

Cadets have been required to attend religious tolerance seminars, during which they have been reminded that Air Force policy bans the use of official e-mails for personal messages.

"We will look into it and if he violated any Air Force or academy policy we will take appropriate action after we've reviewed it," academy spokesman Johnny Whitaker said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: pickemuphere

let me get this straight, if a Christian talks about his faith it's against the law, but a muslim can say or do anything he wants, and its constitutionally protected?


121 posted on 06/01/2005 11:08:00 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: mugs99
"Could it be that religion is an excuse to be intolerant?"

Yes, I believe that some people use it that way.

122 posted on 06/01/2005 11:08:59 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: DocRock
Then in a voice that re-echoed through the church like a trumpet blast, he exclaimed, "And there is also a time to fight, and that time has now come."

Do you understand the difference between preaching to your congregation to fight and preaching to your fighters to convert?

123 posted on 06/01/2005 11:12:32 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: Sam's Army

"Got it. I defend the very folks who have always ensured religious freedom on this thread and they apparently have no right to express it themselves."

After the problems that have been reported and documented at the Air Force Academy, this guy was a Grade-A fool. I would prefer to entrust things such as 2,000-pound bombs to people with a lick of common sense.

Would you be as happy with a Muslim officer telling you "Either attend mosque on Friday or you're on s**t detail" as you seem to expect non-Christians to be with a Christian officer telling them "Either attend chapel on Sunday or you're on s**t detail?"


125 posted on 06/01/2005 11:16:50 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Cogadh na Sith

You are full of it.


126 posted on 06/01/2005 11:22:36 AM PDT by Bryan24
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"You're either attending my preferred chapel service, or you're going to be on the mother of all s**t duties."

Is that really what's going on? It's not spelled out in the article.

The article just refers to some kid sending an email.

127 posted on 06/01/2005 11:25:32 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

"Is that really what's going on? It's not spelled out in the article."

It's been documented at the academy.

"The article just refers to some kid sending an email."

After the events I noted, only a complete grade-A moron--i.e., someone I would not trust with such things as 2,000-pound bombs or $110-megabuck fighters--would've sent that email TO THE ENTIRE DAMN ACADEMY.


128 posted on 06/01/2005 11:28:10 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: GatorPaul

"If this was a Muslim controlled society and you were Christian the work detail would be the least of your problems."

Nice dodge. Address the issue. Does a senior officer in the Air Force have the authority to force his subordinates to adhere to his creed? Yes, or no? If yes, is that a good idea? If it is, then please explain why.


130 posted on 06/01/2005 11:33:49 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Cogadh na Sith
'Cuz, you know, not being Christians they wouldn't realize that....

Uh, I think the premise was that, in some companies, Christians AND non-Christians seem to have lost sight of this point.

"Even though you are not Christians, your work still matters."

Pretty condescending. I wanna be a more humble Christian.


Yes, it WOULD be condescending if you put it that way, especially to a non-Christian. However, that's not what the article was doing. You are looking for conflict where none exists.

This was under the heading "Emphasize Craftmanship". If your organization doesn't suffer from a lack of said emphasis, then harping on it would tend to seem condescending to ALL the employees, Christian or non-Christian alike.

If, however, your organization DOES suffer from a lack of "craftmanship focus", the article merely suggests two methods of motivating employees. One would presumably only work for Christians, and one would presumably work for both, but was mentioned in the context of the non-Christian employee (since the appeal to Biblical principles probably wouldn't be very useful). Are you just offended that the article didn't say "both", or do you disagree with the whole premise that some companies suffer from employees who have lost sight of this focus?

More to the point: who would be reading this article? Your average non-Christian - or, more hopefully, the Christian manager who may have lost sight of the fact that the work of his non-Christian employees "still matters". Target audience, my friend, means a lot when it comes to "perceived slights"...
131 posted on 06/01/2005 11:38:31 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

He wasn't an officer at the time, more's the pity. And his authority must be limited indeed if even his well-wishes can be deemed over-the-line.

Flunked? I don't think so; leadership often requires more than tact; sometimes it may even require guts.

"Never volunteer" evidently wasn't his credo.


132 posted on 06/01/2005 11:40:59 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Dude, they just don't get it.

They think that the military only exists to proselytize and convert in the name of their own particular branch of Christianity....

Unfortunately, a lot of AF leaders feel the same way.

133 posted on 06/01/2005 11:41:31 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: stuartcr

Then not a word would have been spoken from the higher ups.


134 posted on 06/01/2005 11:42:53 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Mach9

"And his authority must be limited indeed if even his well-wishes can be deemed over-the-line."

A lot less limited than most civilians would believe.

Go back to the sex scandals at the Academy a while back. There were some cheating scandals even further back.

They all revolved around the upperclassmen having damn-near-Godlike authority over juniors, and not being adequately supervised. The Air Force Academy has a particularly bad corporate culture in this regard.


135 posted on 06/01/2005 11:44:02 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: beezdotcom
Your average non-Christian - or, more hopefully, the Christian manager who may have lost sight of the fact that the work of his non-Christian employees "still matters". Target audience, my friend, means a lot when it comes to "perceived slights"...

I quoted the article as it was--I cannot believe they are separating employees into 'camps'

I think you are already in a world of hurt in a company if you even see employees as 'Christian' or 'Non-Christian'.

136 posted on 06/01/2005 11:45:13 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: mugs99

Sorry--I'm missing something here. Thought we were talking about Christianity not branches of paganism.


137 posted on 06/01/2005 11:45:29 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: beezdotcom

As a supervisor, would you treat your 'Christian' employees differently than your 'Non-Christian' employees?


138 posted on 06/01/2005 11:48:08 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: mugs99
Could it be that religion is an excuse to be intolerant?

Tell that to the hundreds of millions murdered in the name of secular ideology in the past century.

139 posted on 06/01/2005 11:48:36 AM PDT by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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To: Frapster
Tell that to the hundreds of millions murdered in the name of secular ideology in the past century.

Yeah, what a total waste that they were killed for nothing instead of in the name of Allah, or God or The Great Brahma Goat like in the good ol' days....

140 posted on 06/01/2005 11:52:53 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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