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The French have taken cruel revenge on a man who was once their idol
timesonline UK ^ | May 31, 2005 | Charles Bremner

Posted on 05/30/2005 3:27:09 PM PDT by phoenix_004

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To: phoenix_004
NON!!!

41 posted on 05/30/2005 4:43:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: phoenix_004

Now is the time to redouble our efforts and continue our boycott of french (or any european) products. America must keep saying "non" to europe. Screw them.


42 posted on 05/30/2005 4:48:32 PM PDT by end socialism now
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Thank you, and a Happy Memorial Day to you also - brother.

Semper Fi


43 posted on 05/30/2005 4:57:27 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Tarpon

Everyone still misunderstands the driving fact behind the European Union.

It was never to established a United States of Europe.
Nor was it to counterbalance the US.

It was and always will be about France gaining control of Europe for the grater glory of France. It was that way 300 years ago under the Bourbon monarchy. It was that way 200 years ago under Napoleon. Not sure how the French missed the first half of 20th century - guess Germany kept knocking them back. The second half started under de Gaul and continued under a host of lesser individuals.

The European Union was doomed when the Soviet Union fell. With Eastern Europe (or “new” Europe) becoming part of the European Union France could no longer dominate the organization. Once the French voters realized that, they lost all interest in the European Union. Unfortunately, their political leadership couldn’t reverse their field quick enough to “lead” the French Voters.

Oddly enough, I wish that Chirac stays in power - we know where most of his dirty laundry is and who he listens too when it comes to international politics. Any replacement will take us time to identify his “advisors’.


44 posted on 05/30/2005 4:57:47 PM PDT by Nip (A COIN Carrier since 1975.)
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To: paul51

I only wish our President would be more concerned about the invasion against our own borders, language and culture....

To say nothing of the Islamanazis we haven't yet discovered, arrested, and deported.

Semper Fi


45 posted on 05/30/2005 5:00:12 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: wimpycat

"Well, no one can out-sneer the French."

Or out taunt...

GUARD: You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur-king, you and all your silly English kaniggets. Thppppt!
GALAHAD: What a strange person.
ARTHUR: Now look here, my good man!
GUARD: I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough water! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
GALAHAD: Is there someone else up there we could talk to?
GUARD: No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!


46 posted on 05/30/2005 5:03:59 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: NZerFromHK

Well, you are taking what I wrote too literally. Bill Clinton could come to Paris, "convert" to Catholicsm, and repeat the old adage about "Paris being worth a mass." And the Frenchmen would fall for him . . . until they grow bored with the genuine boor he really is. Remember, the late liberal David Brinkley called Bill Clinton a "boor" on national TV the night of the President's 1996 reelection. Of course, Brinkley was a close friend but not a political intimate of Clinton rival Robert J. Dole.


47 posted on 05/30/2005 5:04:16 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: r9etb

Did the French ever backstab Napoleon I -- can't recall directly?


48 posted on 05/30/2005 5:05:20 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: phoenix_004

I guess they prefer the earlier, thinner Jerry.

49 posted on 05/30/2005 5:07:54 PM PDT by x
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To: wimpycat

True-the socialists killed this, But I'd guess it's more a matter of French insolence, rather than belief in a better idea as a nation.
France lusts for what it was 2 centuries ago, when it had a unity of believing people and world power. What is it now...12% go to church? For the rest, Liberty, Equality, Fraternity has degenerated into Nihilism, Sarcasm and Orgasm. You have to feel sorry for them-a once great nation that believes in nothing today but obsessed with an imaginary perception as a world power. They willed themselves into a third rate status by worshipping Sartre, Voltaire and Marx over God-now they're backsliding into Dhimmitude and further irrelevance. The EU was their great hope for eclipsing America, but it's atheism, not economics that is the source of their weakness. No wonder they lead the world in depression. (consuming 78 tranquilizers and antidepressants per 1,000 persons!)


50 posted on 05/30/2005 5:10:57 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedict XVI: "I think the essential point is a weakness of faith.")
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To: jacquej

"Anyone care to "edumacate" me on what it means for the future of Europe? If it is 300 pages long, I probably would have voted no to it too, just on principle."

The reason the French voted against it is quite simple. It did not provide sufficient protections for their socialistic utopia. The French are scared to death that this constitution would allow a flood of east europeans to move into france taking their service jobs while their manufacturing jobs are threatened by cheap imports from the east. Read closely, this article hints at this.


51 posted on 05/30/2005 5:13:16 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Be careful what you ask for, you may get it.)
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To: Nip
Don't you think it's funny that someone forgot to tell the French people? I have no doubt that was Chirac's and the elite's plan. But now the EU looking a lot like burnt, day old toast.

I hope they dump Chirac just as the Oil for WMD scandal goes nuclear. Then he can be indicted.

52 posted on 05/30/2005 5:24:22 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: DugwayDuke

Here's link to another article here on Free Republic that provides a more detailed explanation of why the French voted Non.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413385/posts


53 posted on 05/30/2005 5:32:24 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Be careful what you ask for, you may get it.)
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To: phoenix_004
Schadenfreude Alert!

54 posted on 05/30/2005 5:39:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: wimpycat

Agreed. I wonder in years to come if the French will up their defense budget as Eastern Europe becomes more powerful, thus depriving their citizens of the goodies they've become so accustomed to. Should take 'em down a notch or two, if they aren't an Islamic Theocracy by then.


55 posted on 05/30/2005 7:16:18 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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