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Mark Steyn: Europe Is An Indulgence We Can't Afford
The Telegraph ^ | May 31, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/30/2005 2:27:08 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc

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41 posted on 05/30/2005 4:34:08 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: quidnunc

Just who is running the nuthouse that is Europe?


42 posted on 05/30/2005 5:39:04 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Pokey78
Thankyew my FRiend.

FMCDH(BITS)

43 posted on 05/30/2005 6:02:32 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: quidnunc; Pokey78

Than;Thanks :)
Stey-o-mite!


44 posted on 05/30/2005 6:12:25 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: cloud8
France and Britain are nukes, and that is power. Period

Nukes are power only to the degree that others believe you will use them. I doubt anyone in this world seriously believes GB or France could muster the political will to set one off.

45 posted on 05/30/2005 6:18:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pokey78

Excellent, as always.

BTTT.


46 posted on 05/30/2005 6:20:24 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: nina0113

ping


47 posted on 05/30/2005 7:12:29 PM PDT by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: Pokey78
"Europe" is an indulgence the real Europe can't afford. The followers recognise that, even if the leaders don't.

But all the leaders really care about is having more power. They don't care if the people starve, freeze, or even revolt, as long as the New York Times and Le Monde and some of the other socialist organs spin the crushing of the revolt as a victory for progressivism. They just want to be in charge of an empire.

48 posted on 05/30/2005 7:42:41 PM PDT by irv
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the post and the ping, Pokey, to a wonderful Steyn! (Is that redundant?)


49 posted on 05/30/2005 8:17:09 PM PDT by alwaysconservative
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To: tet68

That was my favorite line also.


50 posted on 05/30/2005 8:17:30 PM PDT by alwaysconservative
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To: tet68

That was my favorite line also.


51 posted on 05/30/2005 8:17:51 PM PDT by alwaysconservative
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To: Pokey78
Bump:

God bless our fighting heroes on this Memorial day who fought & died for us, including giving us the freedom to post excerpted columns that do not need excerpting.

52 posted on 05/30/2005 8:22:57 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: quidnunc; Pokey78
At the risk of starting WWWIII ( or has it already started?) - why is it that Quid always seems to find Steyn articles and then unneccessarily excerpts his genius prose and then along comes Pokey to post the whole piece? Quid can't you just ping Pokey so he he can post the whole piece? Is this a love-hate thing? Can't we all just get along?
Honestly, I thank you both for posting these pieces but I know when I find a Steyn post by quid to just page down til I find pokey's complete article by Steyn. Weird - but cute. ;-)
53 posted on 05/30/2005 9:03:49 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (What's this for?)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the Full article!


54 posted on 05/30/2005 9:26:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: McGavin999

A minor setback will not stop the intigration of countries.


55 posted on 05/30/2005 9:36:18 PM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: tomjohn77; All

Another great piece by Steyn.

However, he like everyone else is focusing on the nay sayers. There was a poll by Sofres looking at the reasons for people voting like they did. 52% of the voters who voted yes, did so to strengthen "Europe" in face of global challenges from great powers like China, India.....and the USA.

The French No's may not like US-free market economics. The yes's don't like the USA, period.


56 posted on 05/30/2005 9:47:22 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Pokey78

bump and thanks!


57 posted on 05/31/2005 2:12:11 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Eighth Square
"The French rejected the Constitution because the original 11 members of the Union has expanded to 23."

- I can remember when this whole "Europe" as a country got started. It began very sensibly (and very simply) with the notion of a free trade zone, to reduce customs barriers, paperwork, tariffs and ultimately deliver cheaper goods to the people.
Somehow, and led by the french, it became this monstrous, unaccountable, nanny state bureaucracy that wanted to dictate, from Brussels, laws that would govern everything from gun ownership to the contents of sausage.
I suspect that from the start the french saw it as a vehicle to break the US influence within Europe and to set itself up as the real power behind the united Europe throne so to speak.
You cannot build a country based on a constitution which has behind it a hidden agenda.
58 posted on 05/31/2005 3:46:49 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Pokey78
God bless our fighting heroes on this Memorial day who fought & died for us, including giving us the freedom to post excerpted columns that do not need excerpting.

LOL!!! Thanks for the ping, and for the complete article. :)

59 posted on 05/31/2005 5:18:35 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Please check out my new & improved profile page!)
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To: JenB

Jen you can get the full article at www.telegraph.co.uk, you have to register but it's free. Steyn appears every Tuesday (click on opinion) and occasionally in the Sunday edition too. You might want to check out www.spectator.co.uk, he writes there every second week. Hang on just go to www.steynonline.com he publishes everything there plus he has a mailbox where you can write in yourself.


60 posted on 05/31/2005 6:47:00 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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