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To: mugs99
"My side" is the one that has the federal government staying out of religion. If/when faced with religious cases they should decline, citing lack of jurisdiction, which would mean that even some stupid state rulings or laws might have to be allowed to stand. The feds should only step in if some more basic civil rights, such as life & liberty started getting reattached to the religious question. If people do not like the way their state is addressing the religious question, they can work to get their state to change or they can vote with their feet & move to a state more in tune with their beliefs. As we nationalize the question, freedom of movement loses most of it's meaning. Why move if all you are able to find is more of the same?

Nothing like talking down and lecturing another on dogma! Two sides to that coin fella. I don't see you willing to learn other dogma from someone else.

I would flunk the religious tests of colonial times, because I am not a member of any church & haven't been since I was a teen. I disagree with the politics of most, if not all of the organized faiths.

Learning other people's dogma has never been a problem for me, other than I forget more of it than I remember. It's not that it offends me, rather, much of it looks hollow or empty to me. I read "Reason" & it looks like meanderings of an author's bitterness spilling out, though it is likely that it "speaks" to you. Different strokes for different folks...

It is not that I want to inflict my world view or beliefs on anyone, but I resent the hell about the way that secularism has been inflicted on me & mine. It was done to me in the name of freedom, but it is no different than what was done in earlier days in the name of state religion.

73 posted on 06/03/2005 11:04:04 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
I resent the hell about the way that secularism has been inflicted on me & mine.

Lets clear the water. I like Paine, but I do not take him seriously. I am a simple Deist, like Washington or Franklin and am not adverse to prayer or any other religious ceremony. I poke fun at zealots. Sorry if I mistook you for one. I love Christmas, and the Ten Commandments at the courthouse do not offend me.

Secularist zealotry is just as dangerous as religious zealotry and I oppose them both. America belongs to all of us. Both those who demand America be a Christian nation and those who demand America be Godless scare the hell out of me. That's where I'm coming from.
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74 posted on 06/03/2005 11:25:33 PM PDT by mugs99
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