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To: Jim Noble

"I don't think nationalism as a healthy and normal regard for one's own extended family necessarily implies supremacy, much less an aggressive, hostile supremacy.

THAT requires something extra-which in the case of the Austrian corporal was the fusion of a certain mythology with modern technology."

I wouldn't call that nationalism. In the case of "a healthy and normal regard for one's extended family", I would rather speak of "patriotism". But that is, as so many other things, only a question of definition (Speaking of which: It's even worse with the term "liberalism", which in Europe means more or less "Republican-style market economics" *LOL). On the subject matter I mostly agree with you.

The important thing is that, for me, patriotism is the exact opposite of an agressive, hostile nationalism / strife for supremacy. But my president, Horst Koehler (of whom I am great fan), put it so much more nicely:

"Patriotism and being cosmopolitan are not opposites, but complement each other. Only those who respect themselves can also respect others."

Other speeches by Horst Koehler: http://bundespraesident.de/en/-,11165,0/Speeches.htm?link=bpr_liste

Und damit ist natürlich auch klar, daß ich Deutscher bin. Wobei ich als Mitt-Zwanziger nicht unbedingt auf das "Sie" bestehe. Duzen ist schon ok ;-).


388 posted on 05/30/2005 3:18:40 PM PDT by wolf78
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To: wolf78
Duzen ist schon ok

Danke schön

391 posted on 05/30/2005 5:31:14 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: wolf78
Und damit ist natürlich auch klar, daß ich Deutscher bin.

"And dammit, it's naturally clear that I'm German"?

I probably didn't get that right. ;-)

394 posted on 05/30/2005 6:03:23 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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