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U.S. Set to Test Missile Defenses Aboard Airlines(Barbara Boxer is for it?)
NYT ^ | 05/29/05 | ERIC LIPTON

Posted on 05/28/2005 7:27:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

May 29, 2005

U.S. Set to Test Missile Defenses Aboard Airlines

By ERIC LIPTON

In an airplane hangar north of Fort Worth, technicians are preparing to mount a fire-hydrant-shaped device onto the belly of an American Airlines Boeing 767. It is an effort that could soon turn into a more than $10 billion project to install a high-tech missile defense system on the nation's commercial planes.

The Boeing 767 - the same type of plane that terrorists flew into the World Trade Center - is one of three planes that, by the end of this year, will be used to test the infrared laser-based systems designed to find and disable shoulder-fired missiles. The missiles have long been popular among terrorists and rebel groups in war zones around the world; the concern now is that they could become a domestic threat.

The tests are being financed by the Department of Homeland Security, which has been directed by Congress to move rapidly to take technology designed for military aircraft and adapt it so it can protect the nation's 6,800 commercial jets. It has so far invested $120 million in the testing effort, which is expected to last through next year.

Yet even before the tests begin, some members of Congress, and several prominent aviation and terrorism experts, are questioning whether the rush to deploy this expensive new antiterrorism system makes sense.

Homeland Security officials have repeatedly cautioned that no credible evidence exists of a planned missile attack in the United States. But there is near unanimity among national security experts and lawmakers that because of the relatively low price and small size of the missiles, as well as the large number available on the black market, they represent a legitimate domestic threat.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airline; airlinesecurity; boeing; boxer; cost; cox; dhs; gwot; laser; missiledefense
Chris Cox has reservations, while Barbara Boxer is enthusiastic. Hmmm...
1 posted on 05/28/2005 7:27:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Well, I think the plan entails opening both of the emergency exit doors and letting the missile fly through the cabin and out the other side. Babs would go for that.
2 posted on 05/28/2005 7:36:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A simple system to merely drop $3 flares (perhaps even automatically on every takeoff and landing) would foil 65% of all black market missiles...

3 posted on 05/28/2005 7:40:22 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I just flew across country last light. I had a window seat and many times I stared out at the ground and envisoned a missile coming towards us. I was thinking about how easy it would be to do that and wondered why it hasn't already been done. The defense system seems like a good plan. Or maybe I'm just paranoid.


4 posted on 05/28/2005 7:40:53 PM PDT by WhosJohnGalt
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The BAE (TRACOR) Chaff/Flare dispensers work really well.


5 posted on 05/28/2005 7:53:43 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: Southack

Buy Honeywell stock. Or LLL


6 posted on 05/28/2005 7:56:27 PM PDT by earplug (In god you trust. I like my silver and gold.)
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To: WhosJohnGalt

Your just another citizen under the influence of left wing media bias, ready to support the right side protectors of freedom.


7 posted on 05/28/2005 7:58:40 PM PDT by earplug (In god you trust. I like my silver and gold.)
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"Barbara Boxer is enthusiastic."

You misunderstand. Boxer is in favor of someone shooting missles at our commercial aircraft!


8 posted on 05/28/2005 8:07:08 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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Re #8

I think you misunderstood. She is in favor of lase-based missile defense system in airplane, which could be prohibitively expensive but may have limited effectiveness, which is the source of all controversy.

I think Boxer is into headline-grabbing.

9 posted on 05/28/2005 8:20:23 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: NY Attitude
The BAE (TRACOR) Chaff/Flare dispensers work really well.

Already rejected by DHS.

10 posted on 05/28/2005 8:22:30 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: earplug
Buy Honeywell stock. Or LLL

The competition is between Northrop Grumman and BAE Systens.

11 posted on 05/28/2005 8:24:53 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
I have not read this. However, the article is talking about a 3,000 hour Mean-Time-Between-Failure between repairs. The typical system has to be tested prior to each flight because of the pyrotechnics used in the Chaff/Flare Dispenser System. The system that I am familiar with has a good up time and is easy to service and repair.
12 posted on 05/28/2005 8:30:34 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: NY Attitude

They were also worried about flares on commerical aircraft while being refueled. Lots of safety concerns.


13 posted on 05/28/2005 8:48:50 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes

Military aircraft get refueled all the time while the Chaff/Flares are in the dispensers. The System is made safe by the installation of a pin so that the system cannot fire when the pin is inserted. Of course this pin is removed prior to flight.


14 posted on 05/28/2005 8:53:47 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: Southack
A simple system to merely drop $3 flares (perhaps even automatically on every takeoff and landing) would foil 65% of all black market missiles...

Perhaps they could use leftover styrofoam coffee cups from the meal service and those little foil bags of snack-crackers as chaff. :-)

15 posted on 05/28/2005 9:00:30 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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"Chris Cox has reservations, while Barbara Boxer is enthusiastic. Hmmm..."

Want to bet someone in her family has ties to this?



16 posted on 05/29/2005 9:26:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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