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Judge: Public has right to see abuse photos (Abu Ghraib)
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/26/05 | Larry Neumeister - AP

Posted on 05/26/2005 6:45:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: muawiyah

Seriously.

Though those held at Abu Ghraib weren't POW's their detainment could possibly cause them to fall under the Geneva conventions unlike regular terrorists.

In a normal abuse case if someone took pictures of the torture they commited then the pictures are kept from public. But in this case we have to release photos of the victims... and the only reason why is to throw disrepute on the US.


81 posted on 05/27/2005 1:41:40 AM PDT by Bogey78O (*tagline removed per request*)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe the Boston city councilman Chuck Turner(D-Moonbat) can dig up the same photo's he displayed last year.

The Boston Globe did an article with Turner's "Abu Ghraib" snapshots. The pictures were from some porn movie and later discovered to be a hoax.

82 posted on 05/27/2005 2:05:30 AM PDT by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I do think they could be extremely upsetting and depict conduct that would outrage the American public and be truly horrifying," she said outside court.

Lady, I don't think we need to worry about Americans being outraged because they aren't going to riot in the streets and kill each other. It's the MUSLIMS who are going to do that you idiot, so why don't you do what the MSM does best. Cause death and destruction!

83 posted on 05/27/2005 2:13:11 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (We*ve been sold out by spineless, gutless TRAITORS again!!!! They made a deal with the devil...)
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To: dancusa

Here's the link to the Turner picture hoax. It's about a 5 minute clip: http://greaterboston.tv/features/features_video/html/player.php?id=btp_20040514_turner_56k


84 posted on 05/27/2005 2:29:31 AM PDT by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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To: All

Hopefully this decision can be appealed. There should be a serious attempt to impeach this judge.

The Army is having difficulty with recruitment right now, in part because our troops are being trashed on a daily basis by the press and liberal politicians. The meme the left is pushing is the same one that Kerry pushed about Vietnam -- our trigger happy soldiers are over there gunning down journalists, sexually abusing helpless prisoners, destroying towns and villages, and committing war crimes on a daily basis.

If those of us on the home front don't do a better job defending them, the situation will only get worse. Who needs a job where you put your life on your line for your country and then have to defend yourself against some reporter who thinks you should not have pulled the trigger?


85 posted on 05/27/2005 2:56:28 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: NormsRevenge

Of course you will never find a judge ordering the MSM to release the more horrific pictures from 9/11 or from Saddam's bloody reign or the mass Iraqi graves, because it might incite violence on Muslims.

This is a double standard decision exclusively designed to whip up anti-American sentiment. If a careless blurb in Newsweek killed over a dozen people... the release of those pictures may just well reverse all the progress we have made in the MidEast.

Failure at all costs, for political points.


86 posted on 05/27/2005 3:55:41 AM PDT by Nataku X (I want to be a great masochist; how else am I supposed to learn how to be a great sadist?)
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To: NormsRevenge; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ..
"I do think they could be extremely upsetting and depict conduct that would outrage the American public and be truly horrifying," she said outside court.

I'm sorry, did she just say the American public?

Has she thought about what reaction the muslim world is going to have???

87 posted on 05/27/2005 4:18:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

I believe they know precisely what the Muslim reaction will be. Planning on it in fact....


88 posted on 05/27/2005 4:22:16 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Republican Senators aren't interested in serving constitutuents. Only in making deals with RATS.)
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To: prairiebreeze

89 posted on 05/27/2005 4:49:11 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

bttt


90 posted on 05/27/2005 5:10:51 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Commander-in-Chief should just tell the judge to stuff it.

It won't be the first time a president defied a judge.

How many legions does the judge have?

Leni

91 posted on 05/27/2005 5:24:28 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lay down the gauntlet.

I demand that PBS broadcast pictures and videos of a partial birth abortion.

The game is to use visual images to influence public opinion.

They want to play this game? Bring it on.


92 posted on 05/27/2005 5:27:32 AM PDT by PonyTailGuy (Let not your heart be troubled)
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To: PonyTailGuy
"I demand that PBS broadcast pictures and videos of a partial birth abortion."

More germane to the immediate issue, how about they publish all the photos of the various beheadings the Islamakazis have committed over the last few years alongside these so called "atrocities" in Abu Ghraib? That's an apples vs. apples comparison that the hypocritical America-haters will never allow the public to see.

93 posted on 05/27/2005 5:34:52 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: OXENinFLA
Has she thought about what reaction the muslim world is going to have???

Something funny about a fellow American wanting to show a bad side of us.

I think they are either for us or against us.  And by doing this to further inflame the Muslims means they are against us.

What nationality is the Judge, BTW?

94 posted on 05/27/2005 5:40:59 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Hellerstein, Alvin K.

Born 1933 in New York, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Southern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on May 15, 1998, to a seat vacated by Louis L. Stanton; Confirmed by the Senate on October 21, 1998, and received commission on October 22, 1998.

Education:
Columbia College, B.A., 1954

Columbia Law School, J.D., 1956

Professional Career:
Law clerk, Hon. Edmund Palmieri, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, 1956-1957
U.S. Army, JAG Corps, 1957-1960
Private practice, New York City, 1960-1998

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male


95 posted on 05/27/2005 5:46:22 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Well shoot, OXEN, that doesn't give us much. But thank you for that.

Cleared this up in my mind anyway. So, his agenda must be something else. He's an idiot. And old dried up idiot that needs 5 minutes of fame.

To hell with him!

96 posted on 05/27/2005 5:53:42 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: infidel29

LOL! Hanoi John Effing Kerry only said he would "sign the 180." He never said he would send it to the DoN.

So, he signed it, took a picture of it and then shredded it!


97 posted on 05/27/2005 6:06:26 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: SeaBiscuit

"He also said he didn't think it was likely that detainees in redacted photos would be able to be identified."

That's the problem. Liberals like this judge DON'T THINK!
Of if they do, it's thoughts of how they can gain more political power for the Dems.


98 posted on 05/27/2005 6:18:38 AM PDT by Help!
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To: CyberAnt

Try to impeach Bush? No. That's absurd. They just want to stir the pot. What else can they do?


99 posted on 05/27/2005 6:22:10 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: NormsRevenge

what was that penalty for giving *** AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY IN A TIME OF WAR *** ? Oh yeah.


100 posted on 05/27/2005 6:44:01 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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