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Wal Mart's Exploitive Practices Attacked By Website
Wake Up Wal-Mart ^

Posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Because of Wal-Mart's inadequate wages and benefits, Wal-Mart employees are eligible for $2.5 billion in Federal assistance, which comes from your tax dollars.

(Excerpt) Read more at wakeupwalmart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: dujerks; gowalmart; ihateamerika; marxistidiots; nutjobs; populistmorons; rejoiceinwalmart; socialistcons; wallyhaters; walmart; walmartsucks; youshoptheretoo
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To: Goodgirlinred

One thing America has realized it does not need and that is a large unskilled, unionized labor pool. It will not come back into demand in my lifetime(unless you count the unionized government workers who are a BIG drain on our economy).


821 posted on 05/31/2005 5:26:58 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: bfree

You are right on both counts. I did not realize that government workers were unionized! How did that happen?


822 posted on 05/31/2005 5:33:06 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Sorry so long in responding....I've been working at my slave labor job of planting fruits and vegetables for the evil pickle, preserve and sauce manufacturer I must supply.......and am using seeds and other products purchased at Walmart.

Amazingly everything purchased at Walmart was made in the USA, thus so will the finished products of the fruits of my labor........because not only do I supply the slave labor for hte planting and harvesting - I'm the manufacturer of the products made! Thank you Walmart for assisting me in being able to start a small business thus be able to continue to be a stay-at-home-mom!!!

I totally agree with you about "Oprah" types (I like that title, BTW........ They are generall y lots of fun - for amusement purposes only :)


823 posted on 05/31/2005 5:38:08 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
"I don't consider myself poor and neither do my kids!"

My grandma always told me "poor is nothing but a state of mind."

824 posted on 05/31/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: bfree

Absolutely! My EX-husband is a union truck driver. He used to work for a company that was driven out of business by the union! They wouldn't give any concessions in wages to keep their jobs so what happened??? The company folded. He couldn't understand that just maybe it would be worth giving up a few $$ per hour and still have a job.


825 posted on 05/31/2005 6:10:30 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

While I occassionally will pick up some groceries I Walmart, I do so only if I am there for other things. Walmart is 15 miles away and I have a perfectly good grocery store, that I like very much, only 5 miles away!!!

The Walmart circular came today - they have a particular style of sandal I have been looking for and a particular chair on sale this week - and I want both!!! I also need more seeds and tomato plants!!!! For my specialty herbs and veggies I go to the local nurseries - but I like the seed brand the local WM carries for basics.


826 posted on 05/31/2005 6:20:53 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Goodgirlinred; Mrs.Nooseman
The way I look at it, if you don't like where you work, find a job somewhere else. If you don't like a certain shopping place, find somewhere else to shop.

That's exactly the attitude I have about this.

Your local Walmart sounds just like the one I shop in - I've run into my state Delegate, who also happens to be my attorney, many of my daughter's teachers, and even some of the wealthier residents of the area. In many ways it's no different than a local 5 & 10 or the hardware store - you're always ging to run into someone you know - or at least meet someone new :)

It also seems that everytime I turn around another new store or restaurant or office is opening up in the vicinity.

I'm glad Mrs.Nooseman has been participating in this thread and setting some of these people straight - whether they believe her or not, at least we know that the impressions we have gotten of the local Walmarts we patronize are not out of the ordinary.

827 posted on 05/31/2005 6:42:15 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Goodgirlinred
Southern country folks are good folks.

You'll never get an arguement from me about that.

City folks, bless their hearts, just need a little kindness I guess.

BTW - I was born and raised in NYC :)

828 posted on 05/31/2005 6:44:28 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Rushgrrl
Why don't all of you who are throwing rocks at Walmart for their horrible wages go take a poll at other retail stores and find out what their starting pay is. Maybe...just maybe you might then see the light.

No, no, no - you can't ask them to get away from their feeeeeeeeelings aagainst Walmart. It doesn't matter what the others pay, only that they believe Walmart doesn't pay anything but the barest minimums (/sarcasm)

Starting hourly wage at the local Walmart is nearly $3.00 and hour more than the identical job in any other local retailer.

829 posted on 05/31/2005 6:56:45 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: bfree
These people never will learn that high priced labor and huge benefits drove manufacturing out of the country, not Walmart.

That and over-regulation, much of which has been brought on by the enviro-whacko tree huggers and the NIMBY contingent. Then of course you can add in what the trial lawyers have done - and I won't even get into OSHA........

But no - it's all Walmart's fault if you listen to the chicken littles on these threads.

830 posted on 05/31/2005 7:08:33 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: durasell

Love your article from The Economist. Bookmarked and saved.


831 posted on 05/31/2005 7:13:06 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Gabz
According to some here, EVERYTHING is Walmart's fault. Almost like the left declaring that everything is Bush's fault. Similar claims by similar people? Coincidence?
832 posted on 05/31/2005 7:15:31 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: bfree

I don't believe in coincidences................


833 posted on 05/31/2005 7:26:36 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: TChris
The reason for this is that the market couldn't care less about your soul.

Market is a concept, a convention behind which the real people hide. See my tagline.

834 posted on 05/31/2005 7:32:53 PM PDT by A. Pole (Wizard of Oz: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.")
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To: Aliska
I think you ought to do that, only cover more of the country if you can. Use this thread as a backdrop, kind of interweaving, flashback style. Don't quote more than you are allowed or you will be in copyright violation.

It's something I've been kicking around from time to time. I have a digital camera and carry it around a lot so that could be a start. Don't know if I could cover the country but there is a lot of fodder here in Pittsburgh and I'm sure I could dig up a lot in Youngstown Ohio and other places around here. I got to think about this. I'm sure Upton Sinclair and Jack London got their start this way, I might research them a bit more, get ideas.

As for myself, I need to publish my book of WWII letters. Might give our troops some inspiration. I sincerely regret that I didn't include them in my list of people I stick up for too many posts back. God bless our troops.

Good idea. I know what you mean, sometimes we might forget some that we do not intend to. I know someone here posted about our military families needing foodstamps and such, well, that's a problem too, unfortunatly, that was out of the scope of the debate here but I did respond that is a concern of a lot of us too. I thank our troops everytime I am able to.

Later maybe we should talk more about how they suffer on the home front in their service of our country. It puts a strain on the best of marriages, and they get in trouble financially. During 'Nam, one of my husband's fellow soldiers got into financial difficulties and jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. I saw what some of the others went through and how they were treated as trash and exploited with rent deposits by the locals. About a chapter's worth. They (the troops and their wives) never complained or stuck up for themselves. There was much sadness when one got shipped off to 'Nam and the wife went back home to wait it out and/or file for divorce.

Whar I'm concerned about is between the barking moonbats of the left who want to tear down our society's morals and pillars and the ones who are free traders who want to sell our soul for a quick buck, there might be an Anakin Skywalker in the wings who would take over and say "enough!" He might be of rich lineage or he could have been born in a ghetto. Then it all goes downhill. If there is no Anakin coming down the pike, we will possibly devolve to a 2nd World nation (Communist Bloc living standards, circa 1970's) or worse, 3rd World Nation, break up, or face an atomic war. I don't want that for our nation, us, or our children.
835 posted on 05/31/2005 7:52:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Goodgirlinred
You got that right!

My husband looked into getting a job with the painters union,but when he found out that in the end he would only make about 9$ an hour, after paying his dues it wasn't worth it!And it didn't guaranty him a year round job either!

He is going to school for computer repair at the moment that is why I am the sole provider for my family!
836 posted on 05/31/2005 8:24:30 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Goodgirlinred

Yep,
That is the experience we have here, too!

There are more businesses shooting up all around here and they all seem to like the closeness of WALMART!


837 posted on 05/31/2005 8:29:24 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Gabz
I try but I don't seem to get through to them!

I can not believe the hatred some have toward Walmart!
838 posted on 05/31/2005 8:40:19 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Nowhere Man
You're on. Now this is a suggestion not an order. Don't quit your day job(s). May I dare to make a suggestion as to style that will go over like another lead balloon (I'll get called a pinko for bringing it up)?

Fine, I thought you would. Remember that movie "Reds". Remember "Schindler's List" and the black and white frames with the only color being the little girl in the red coat? A combo like that with b&w photos mixed with colored and two-tones, sepia would be an effective way to present your photos.

Now for narrative, voices such as you can pick up here would tell the story; if you don't quote them but paraphrase them, it's not a copyright violation. Or real people out there like the old people in "Reds" telling their experiences, then the photos. That's just a general outline.

I've got a few more ideas but I just got into a mini dogfight up at the gas station. The bullet proof Plexiglas was down for the night, the clerk was agitated, the guy who I paid $25 to haul my tree stumps the other day was yakking at me and all of a sudden here's the cops, a guy waiting in a car outside for the guy talking to me, the cops special duty guy checking for a counterfeit $10. I offered that they needed a portable scanner, all this in front of the store camera. Smile. Suddenly the guy outside is po'ed because the guy in the store is taking too long, so the inside guy loses it and runs outside going off on the guy in the car. I go out and he's on the pay phone while the guy is backing up the car and I figure he's going to mow down the guy on the phone and pin him to the wall. Then he comes back in the station and I tell him to cool it, that guy out there is acting crazy, I'll give you a ride home, but in front of the cops I tell him if he goes off on me like that, I'm driving him down to the police station. Asked the cops if they were going to cuff anybody and I didn't want to be dragged in as any witness. No, he's free to go so we exit station and I take him home. He's drunk, but not too drunk to have a little chat about unions and that he's thinking of taking a civilian job in Iraq 'cuz they pay $85 thou. I suggested he think long and hard about that because if he gets in trouble, he's on his own and there aren't going to be any rangers coming in to rescue him. Whew. And I thought I'd had enough for one day.

I have to start another book, too, and I wish I had someone like Ann Coulter with her acerbic wit or that Robert Bork guy to help ghostwrite it for me. Nobody will read it, but there will be some good stuff in there. They won't give me the time of day; I'm on my own. I'm going to record the anecdotal material and organize and transcribe it later.

Here's a sample. I once went to a Christmas party out in California during 'Nam and had too much to drink. The big boss, in this case an Air Force Colonel stops by. I tell him he's no damn good and he's fired and get back to partying. He's laughing. Monday I'm a little late for work. I get a call from his secretary to come down, the colonel wants to talk to me. No sweat. I saunter down to his office and sit down in front of him and he proceeds to tell me it's ok, I'm not in trouble and he thought I was late because I was afraid to come to work. So that was that. He's kind of on my good guy list because I could have been fired. There's much, much more of interest to military types . . .that was just a teaser.

And Mr. Landry, out there in Taxachusetts, if you are still alive, you are on my good-guy list. I'll explain why in the book.

Whew again. Time to call it a night. Let me know if your book is feasible or just idle talk.

839 posted on 05/31/2005 8:57:44 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: All

Could someone please steer me to the emplyer that isnt govt related,who has benefits better than wallmart,and is in the 6.00 to 12.00 hr wage scale? Oh and is'nt a union.


840 posted on 05/31/2005 9:17:27 PM PDT by Nooseman
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