The Democrats Got Rolled in the Compromise...But Don't Know It Yet! (VANITY)

Free Republic | May 25, 2005 | Gary L. Livacari

[GaryL]

Exactly - why was she filibustered in the first place? The Democrats have proven again that their judgment on who's an "extremist" can't be trusted! I count that as another victory for our side!

[2banana]

80-20 for Owen? You're dreaming. The RATs will have very few defections.

Remember now - she is a woman - dems will start thinking of the commercials of themselves voting against a woman in the next voting cycle...

[castawayinabluestate]

How is allowing the democrats to continue to obstruct the process, and thereby betraying the wishes of the voters who puts the Republicans into power, a victory? Do you really believe the Dems aren't going to go right back to fillibustering everyone? This agreement is as worthless as a arms-reduction pact with the Soviets in the early eighties: We give them everything, they give us nothing.

[MACVSOG68]

Good analysis. But having taken this side of the issue and emerged burnt to a crisp, watch your backside. Some of these folks here are as nasty as any you will meet on the "competing" boards. Too bad FR has degenerated into a hotbed of flame throwers. Your piece, whether one agrees or disagrees should bring out reasoned debate, not insult laden flames. Good job.

[GaryL]

Right On!!

[frankiep]

John McCain was prominently involved, so I have a very hard time believing that the conservativism won here.

But maybe if we keep telling ourselves that, it will be so.

[Red Badger]

...Swimmer...

Kampfschwimmer.......

[Antoninus]

Trust me…THE FILIBUSTER IS DEAD!

I make it a point of never believing a guy who says "trust me."

[DJtex]

Since Bush has gotten 170+ Federal Judges approved vs. the 10 or so blocked, this is really all about the Supreme Court. The minority and women judges that Bush is appointing to the Circuit Courts are potential Justices. That's one reason why the Democrats are blocking these particular judges.

The "nuclear option" has been exposed to let the Democrats know that Bush will get the Supreme Court nominees that he wants with very little "advice and consent" of the minority.

[Qwinn]

"When Priscilla Owens finally gets a full senate vote - it will be something like 80-20"

I agree that you're dreaming. If she gets 60, I'll be shocked. I'm predicting around 52.

Qwinn

[clintonh8r]

Good policy!

[GaryL]

"My opponent voted against Judge Owens before he voted for her." You're exactly right! Will make for great sound bites in political ads!! We've got them cornered...but they don't realize it yet!

[Red Badger]

Haven't seen any flames......yet. I believe he has a good point...........(puttin' on asbestos underwear).....

[GaryL]

I don't think you'll have to wait very long!

[mikeus_maximus]

Follow me on this. If these three are the most “extreme” - by the Democrats own definition - what does that make the others? That’s right…moderates! Does anyone really believe that the Democrats will now resurrect the filibuster to obstruct “moderate judges”? Of course not!

I've heard that argument over and over the last couple of days, and I have to say, it's just stupid. Of course they will! Since when have the Dems felt compelled to be logically consistent? Since when have they failed to twist, obfuscate, and stoop to new lows in rhetoric to fool the American public? Since when has the MSM called them on that? If they want to torpedo any nomination and build a PR case and get the Less-than-Magnificent-Seven to go along with them, they will!

I have to wonder what these "political pundits" with this "brilliant insight" have been watching for the last 5 years. Or whether they have clue about the liberal mindset.

[MindBender26]

Sorry, but this is just Pollyanna pie-in-the sky false logic.

The Repubs got outmaneuvered, our media-ed and out gonad-ed by the Dems.

[GaryL]

Thanks for your kind words! So far I'm rather pleasantly surprised by the responses.

[processing please hold]

But on the other hand, I'm glad Bush didn't have to run against President Al Gore in 2000.

Are you saying the only way Bush won...was the Supreme Court gave it too him?

Who are you?????

[xzins]

You seem to think that the senators who were willing to sell out once will find it difficult to sell out twice, if the nuke option comes up a second time.

I'd say that that is pie-in-the-sky thinking.

[JCEccles]

If these three are the most “extreme” - by the Democrats own definition - what does that make the others? That’s right…moderates!

You are assuming the Democrats will stay true to a consistent definition, a staggering assumption. In addition, they can always find other reasons to filibuster some of the other nominees. You can be very creative in such matters when you lack all scruples, as is true with the Democrats.