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To: Fester Chugabrew
scientists want to be taken seriously when they present their theories, then they had better remind themselves of a host of assumptions that have been made in order to arrive at their "system of assumptions, accepted principles, and rules of procedure." Otherwise they simply play themselves and their audience for suckers

This is getting pretty silly. Science is not subject to tinkering by non-scientists, and so has no need to have its procedures justified to the unwashed masses. Unlike most civilians, scientists are professionally required to vet their assumptions with extreme critical rigor. It is the audience that needs to come up to speed, or get lost, unlike politics, science is not dependent on winning a popularity contest amongst the under-educated masses that vote. Science has a product to offer, and the countries stupidly enough run not to buy it, fall off the map, eventually. For two obvious examples of countries that thought that politicians should examine science and improve its thought processes, try China and Russia in the last century.


2,102 posted on 05/31/2005 5:06:21 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh
Science is not subject to tinkering by non-scientists . . .

You seem to be deluded in what makes up "science" and what may or may not be submitted as a scientific claim. You also seem to be incapable of recognizing the fact there are varying degrees of certitude with repect to the claims science makes, whether those claims are made by "professionals," as you call them, or the man on the street. In short, your thinking on these matters may be in need of an epistomological enema. One way or another we'll all get one, if not within the next few minutes, then within the next century. That is a scientific prediction.

2,104 posted on 05/31/2005 6:45:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: donh
Science has a product to offer, and the countries stupidly enough run not to buy it, fall off the map, eventually. For two obvious examples of countries that thought that politicians should examine science and improve its thought processes, try China and Russia in the last century.

It's not for lack of worship of your Science god, that they had problems. It was for lack of a humane Philosophy.

2,117 posted on 05/31/2005 11:56:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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