[balrog666]

Since we're sharing here, let me just counter that I don't see how a rational person can be a theist. But since some rational people are theists, I accept they manage to reconcile theism and reason, at least to their own satisfaction. In any case I'm an atheist, and most of the time I feel intellectually fulfilled. So one of us is deluded.

Funny, how many of their arguments are based on both ignorance and a lack of vision.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Funny, how many of their arguments are based on both ignorance and a lack of vision.

It seems to me that if science is to be an ongoing process, then "intellectual fulfillment" is to be an unreachable goal. Or am I basing my argument on "ignorance and a lack of vision?" If, however, by "intellectual fulfillment" you mean satisfaction with one's own knowledge about the universe, you may be right. Otherwise your remark smacks of "stirupshitism."

And what's with this "us and them" thing? Are you saying you are completely lacking in ignorance and vision?

[betty boop]

...ignorance and a lack of vision.

Details please, balrog666.

IOW, of what does your "vision" consist?

BTW, if you're going to quote me in a post, i would appreciate being pinged.