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To: donh

They professed to believe the tenets of Christianity. Which makes metaphysical claims including that of special intervention in the physical world. I guess I made the "foolish" mistake of believing them when they say they did. I guess you want to find a mind dump somewhere to prove that they really did believe what they said they did.


1,550 posted on 05/28/2005 10:18:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
They professed to believe the tenets of Christianity.

Well, now. Threaten me with burning at the stake and I'll be a darn good christian too. Coerced testimony isn't generally considered reliable in a court of law, you realize?

Which makes metaphysical claims including that of special intervention in the physical world.

At the present moment, about half of all working scientists believe exactly the same thing, with no qualms because, as I've repeatedly pointed out, your protests to the contrary notwithstanding, many of them are christian, and most of them thorougly understand that science is NOT about the entire universe, just the parts it can easily gather evidence about, and even that's a little goosey.

I guess I made the "foolish" mistake of believing them when they say they did. I guess you want to find a mind dump somewhere to prove that they really did believe what they said they did.

I'll be happy to take that for a concession speech.

Here are your words that started this embroglio off:

Funny how "Humean" doubts didn't seem to bog down the experiments, observations, and conclusions of men who were unabashed Christians when it came down to metaphysics.

Followed by a gobsmack of smart remarks. Let me just point out something a little odd about this. What you are going pridefully on about here, is that christian scientists entertain no doubts whatsoever about their enterprise, whereas ordinary modern scientists do.

Does this seem like an exceptionally odd way to condemn modern science for its arrogant global self-assurance? it does to me--unless the agenda here is to make propaganda points for creationism, rather than sensible, consistent arguments one is willing to stand behind.

1,562 posted on 05/28/2005 10:39:37 AM PDT by donh
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