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To: Dimensio
Strangely, they always balk when I suggest time travelling humans.

I wouldn't know why. Whenever I see those artists' depictions which purport to be of the "alien visitors" that people have spotted running around abducting people and molesting cows and so forth, my reaction is always, "you know, that looks too damned *human*-like to be an actual alien."

There's absolutely no reason to expect aliens from [wherever] to be anywhere near that humanoid (hell, they're more humanlike than chimps or gorillas, and we're *really* close to them genetically), as opposed to more closely resembling any of the other several million species on Earth (e.g. lobsters, moose, begonias), or even something totally unlike any Earth-like life form.

So if these "visitors" actually exist, their shape strongly suggests that they're actually modified humans instead of "aliens", and their advanced technology would indicate they're from the future. QED.

...either that, or the folks making up (or hallucinating) these "visits" have poor imaginations and can't come up with anything better than a tweaked human form.


1,160 posted on 05/27/2005 12:02:20 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

You'll be singing a new tune when the Begonian Star Guild gets here..


1,161 posted on 05/27/2005 12:06:46 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Ichneumon
So if these "visitors" actually exist, their shape strongly suggests that they're actually modified humans instead of "aliens", and their advanced technology would indicate they're from the future. QED.

OR, they are a branch of our own family tree that made it into space long ago, and built the Monuments on Mars before skipping out of the Solar System entirely. Homo Habilis on anti-steroids.

OR, they are an artificially induced cross between the Rigelian Lizard People and us, to radically alter their space-faring dissapated blood line, or to shake them out of their doldrums, or to serve them as a congruently designed shepard/interpreter slaves when the come to collect all our magnificent nervous systems to be transplanted as control devices to run their ships and machinery.

OR, they are the demons and fairies and trolls that have always been around, but rarely glimpsed by humans, and whose cultures operate hidden from our view in the corners of our planet we don't occupy.

Or, wait, no--they are the numerous illicit offspring of Clinton's drug-addled genes, organized by the CIA to mutilate our cattle and breed with our woman using massive machinery, in order to produce a tractable race of hairless secret agent love slaves.

1,168 posted on 05/27/2005 2:44:30 AM PDT by donh
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To: Ichneumon

I always figured androids -- biological constructs designed for a specific purpose. The actual aliens are just too damned alien for us...


1,183 posted on 05/27/2005 3:24:55 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: Ichneumon
I wouldn't know why.

I've got some idle speculation.

Yes, many ID-proponents are quick to deny that the designer "must" have been a divine agent of some sort. Yes, they allow for non-divine creators, like aliens, but if you do that, then they can still claim that there's a question of where the aliens come from. They use the same "can't have an infinite regress" argument that you get with the "first cause" argument, and from there they can shoe-horn in the idea of a divine agent. With time travel, it's a causality loop. The question is closed, there's no need to introduce a divine agent because you've answered all the questions. Since, as we know, ID is just creationism in disguise, even the ID proponents most trying to hide that link will quickly jump in to pooh-pooh any suggestion that would allow for "Intelligent Design" without actually shoving a God into the works, even though the suggestion is no less ludicrous than what they offer.

That's just speculation, mind you, but I do think it telling that many ID proponents don't like you suggesting a causality loop no matter how often they deny that they're linked to creationism.
1,319 posted on 05/27/2005 12:21:38 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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