Creationism: God's gift to the ignorant (Religion bashing alert)

Times Online UK ^ | May 21, 2005 | Richard Dawkins

[PatrickHenry]

I think a bra might work - two data points for the price of one.

Nope. Gotta be a jock strap.

[chronic_loser]

His views are well known. The only purpose to bringing up Dawkins' political beliefs is to smear those people who support evolutionary biology must be lilly-livered Bush-having leftists. This is a cheap tactic of guilt by association.

Guilt by association is a very dangerous game to play. The best of men have warts. I just read recently that the initial pogroms of the Jews were actually JUSTIFIED IN WRITING (Himmler) by appealing to Martin Luther's rants against the Jews. I did not believe it (Luther is one of my heroes), till I looked it up. Depressed me most of the day.

I haven't traced the thread, and I don't know about Dawkins' political views. However, I find him an arrogant, intolerant, intolerable asshole who is far more impressed with his own cognitive capabilities than is justified. He reminds me of what I would be like if I were real smart.

[donh]

If you do not believe these things [resurrection, virgin birth] and believe Jesus is the son of G-d then you aren't a Christian.

As I read this, if you aren't making a grammatical error, you are saying that many modern reform churches are not christian.

I don't do theology

At least, not very well.

[Fester Chugabrew]

. . . what Galileo would think of people who cling to marginal pseudo-scientific theories like ID "unsupported by observation" . . .

Oh, the observations are there alright. The evidence is just as stong, if not stronger, for intelligent design. It amuses me in a queer way to hear an intelligently designed being tell me there is no such thing as intelligent design involved is his existence. Galileo would be rolling his eyes. The proponents of ID are the modern day Galileos, and this time folks like you are on the side of ignorance.

[Gumlegs]

No. How could you hope to grasp the glory of my discovery?

Given the equipment used in your discovery, I have no interest whatever in grasping it.

[Right Wing Professor]

However, I find him an arrogant, intolerant, intolerable asshole who is far more impressed with his own cognitive capabilities than is justified. He reminds me of what I would be like if I were real smart.

ROFLMAO!

I admire a man who's in touch with his insane megalomaniacal side. That inner child stuff is for wimps.

[Right Wing Professor]

Yeah, that. :-)

[forsnax5]

Gotta be a jock strap.

An ambient fellow named Patrick,
Developed a luminal metric,
Involving marshmallows,
And plenty of pillows,
And a jock strap, quite oddly, electric.

:)

Lots of idle time today...

[furball4paws]

Well, that's one less neighbor we have to worry about being on the list.

[Gumlegs]

It amuses me in a queer way to hear an intelligently designed being tell me there is no such thing as intelligent design involved is his existence.

You're begging the question, Fester. That's a logical fallacy.

[furball4paws]

I am in awe.

[Gumlegs]

The "for sale" sign is already on the front lawn.

[js1138]

I have a problem with guys like you who exhibit faux concern for conservatism on the evo threads and never show their face on the threads concerning conservatism having to do with conservtaism and the constitution.

That wouldn't include anyone I see on these threads. Some of don't have any expertise in politics, so we are mostly lurkers. But we didn't show up here the first time for the science threads.

[Fester Chugabrew]

That's a logical fallacy.

Not when emanations from the entity with which I am communicating evidence both intelligence and design.

[PatrickHenry]

Well, it looks like no one is going to ask. So I'll tell you anyway:

Step 1: Put on the jock strap.
Step 2: Eat the marshmallows.
Step 3: Now get a microwave oven, some chocolate, and a ruler ...

[Gumlegs]

You apparently don't understand the concept.

[Liberal Classic]

I have close relatives in Kansas. I think they're fine folks, and I don't appreciate them being characterized as yokels. Dawkins probably does have an over-inflated ego, and he very well may be a big asshole. He wouldn't be the first scientist to be lacking in the personality department.

[donh]

"Immensely popular" is an overstatement.

No, it's not, the book's name is "Sidereus Nuncius"--look it up yourself--it won't be too hard to find, it's one of the Great Books. Had it not been so popular, there would have been no compelling need for the Church to crack down on it.

[Dimensio]

In fact, there must be a place for the supernatural in scientific inquiry because the supernatural exists.

It does? Support this assertion.

If scientists are forced not to recognize something that exists they are limited in their inquiry.

Scientists are limited in their inquiry. Science is the study of nothing more than how things in the natural universe works. Even if the supernatural exists, science cannot address it, because it would fall outside of the scope of scientific inquiry and observation. There's no need to redefine science; just come up with a new field of study that addresses the supernatural.

[furball4paws]

Take the bra. Put one marshmallow in each cup. Take a ride on the space shuttle and do a space walk. While there and using the bra as a slingshot, shoot the marshmallows toward Jupiter. With each orbit take detailed measurements of the marshmallows. After a few millenia, who knows?