Posted on 05/25/2005 3:41:22 AM PDT by billorites
Intelligent Design: A hypothesiswhereinthat given features of life v non-life that are otherwise inexplicable are explained by an intelligent cause, rather than by an undirected process such as natural selection.
LOL!
Such a thing as a church probably won't work until Christ comes back to head it up. The way men carry on certainly projects to such a conclusion. But I don't have a crystal ball, or a definitive passage in the bible that declares it categorically impossible. There could be a reuniting followed by the most drastic falling away the world has ever seen. I don't know.
Such a thing as a [UNIVERSAL VISIBLE] church probably won't work until Christ comes back to head it up.
"according to which" :-)
What? Where did I say that?
well I cease my challenges in that vein (other apologists take up the torch well enough) but I do not cede the claim that they did. I just don't buy Science as Proof Of Everything That Matters (including that kind of matter).
And, so, for perhaps the fourth time, do most scientists. It would be bizarre beyond belief to hear coming out of a scientist's mouth that what science accepts as good explanations are "Everything that Matters".
Well, we can see from the existing churches that it will not work. If you have to have an office of the Inquisition, you have problems.
Yup.
I don't wish to imply anything against your faith. I just am trying to understand what is going on with all of them right now.
Good luck. It world-class baffles me.
Vladimir Horowitz's album "An Historic Return, Horowitz at Carnegie Hall" did get an Emmy.
There are organs in smaller churches that perform some of those kinds of duties. Going by such names as board of elders, ethics committee, ethics subcommittee, etc. It doesn't go snooping on its own accord but if someone reports misconduct then they go see if it's true and if so take action. The RCC is so bloomin' big that it could populate a town with people dedicated to this function. But it would be wise to lose "Inquisition" from its name. That has permanent bad press, and stating in retort that the pure church cannot err doesn't help (because we gotta deal with impure churches here on earth).
Thanks. I feel better.
Impure churches. That's the wheat mixed in with the tares. I wonder, are there holy churches? For real, not just claiming to be.
A French derived term (historie)
The odds of getting a bad apple would seem to dictate that if they exist, they are tiny (dozens at most). And it would be virtually impossible to tell.
The tares do often serve some kind of constructive function in the churches; God doesn't just have them there to frustrate the wheat. The proof is that he will not uproot them now "lest he hurt" the wheat.
Is it too late to suggest going back, and saying something like "certain biological features or processes"? That would give us something like this:
Intelligent Design: A hypothesisHere's a cleaned-up version:whereinthatgiven features of life v non-lifecertain biological features or processes that are otherwise inexplicable are explained by an intelligent cause, rather than by an undirected process such as natural selection.
Intelligent Design: A hypothesis that certain biological features or processes that are otherwise inexplicable are explained by an intelligent cause, rather than by an undirected process such as natural selection.
It appears then, that the responsibility for being holy, rests with the individual. You never know for sure, if the person sharing the pew with you, is for real or not. Even the priest. Even the bishop. Even the Pope. It looks like you are on your own. Then why have a church? Would it not be better just to believe on your own?
Either some major Catholic news has transpired that I missed, or I've promulgated a misunderstanding here. As far as I knew, sometime around 1875 the Inquisition was officially dropped, and the list of banned books and ideas transferred to another entity, to be followed soon by members the inquisition's staff. Said entity was headed up by Ratzinger before he became Pope.
In my humble opinion, this chain of affairs does not bode well for continuing amicable relations between the Church and the rest of the western catholic world--much of which is seething resentfully over the 12th century attitudes of the Vatican.
Ah. It's good to see the old virtues still obtain. And I still prefer "an hypothesis." But then, I'm an 'orrible evo.
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