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Scenario #1 - Republicans try to explain that the Constitution does not require a super majority for advice and consent, etc, etc. and the Republicans "pull the trigger" on the nuclear option, the up or down votes take place, and the press castigates the Republicans for "changing the traditions of the sacred Senate rules." Republicans are viewed as majority bullies.

Scenario #2 - Dems start a filibuster; it goes on for days and the only thing the press can show are videos of "Sheets" Byrd talking about his choice of kitty feed. Republicans hammer the Constitutional requirement for advice and consent (not super majority, filibuster never been used like this before, etc, etc.) The filibuster ends because the Dems finally see the reality of their obstructionist position and the up-down vote takes place.

Which of these is better for us in the long run?

128 posted on 05/23/2005 9:13:05 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: kinsman redeemer
Scenario #2 - Dems start a filibuster; it goes on for days and the only thing the press can show are videos of "Sheets" Byrd talking about his choice of kitty feed. Republicans hammer the Constitutional requirement for advice and consent (not super majority, filibuster never been used like this before, etc, etc.) The filibuster ends because the Dems finally see the reality of their obstructionist position and the up-down vote takes place.

Never gonna happen.

137 posted on 05/23/2005 9:14:54 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Good points well made.


148 posted on 05/23/2005 9:19:28 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

"Which of these is better for us in the long run?"


And which is realistic??


169 posted on 05/23/2005 9:27:13 AM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: kinsman redeemer
The filibuster ends because the Dems finally see the reality of their obstructionist position ...

No

That particular filibuster does not end until the next Democrat is elected President. Why don't you realize we are at war ?

176 posted on 05/23/2005 9:30:32 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: kinsman redeemer

"Scenario #1 - Republicans try to explain that the Constitution does not require a super majority for advice and consent, etc, etc. and the Republicans "pull the trigger" on the nuclear option, the up or down votes take place, and the press castigates the Republicans for "changing the traditions of the sacred Senate rules." Republicans are viewed as majority bullies.
Scenario #2 - Dems start a filibuster; it goes on for days and the only thing the press can show are videos of "Sheets" Byrd talking about his choice of kitty feed. Republicans hammer the Constitutional requirement for advice and consent (not super majority, filibuster never been used like this before, etc, etc.) The filibuster ends because the Dems finally see the reality of their obstructionist position and the up-down vote takes place.

Which of these is better for us in the long run?"

Doesn't matter because anyway you look at it, only 48% of the country is going to be upset with the Republicans and 52% of the country is going to say that this was a good thing.

The Republicans are the majority and the minority reads the NY Times and watches CNN.

So in the end, if a Dem Senator whines in the woods and only NARAL and MOVEON hears it, will anyone really care?






182 posted on 05/23/2005 9:35:19 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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