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To: jjmcgo

I'm not Catholic, only educated by the Jesuits--but they have been in trouble with the Pope since at least the 1960s, and maybe earlier than that. But that's really beside the point.

Just because lots of people choose to ignore one of Jesus's teaching doesn't mean it isn't there. I quote Matthew 8:19-20:

And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Jesus says that following him isn't easy. It takes moral fortitute and sacrifice. Again, the morality of the death penalty aside, taking pleasure from the suffering of others is decidedly un-Christian.

My only point is that people who claim to take a moral Christian high ground really don't have much ground to stand on--especially when you consider Matthew 7:1--"judge not that you be not judged."


307 posted on 05/19/2005 1:47:28 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

So, were you a conscientious objector?


309 posted on 05/19/2005 1:49:16 PM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: Publius Valerius
My only point is that people who claim to take a moral Christian high ground really don't have much ground to stand on--especially when you consider Matthew 7:1--"judge not that you be not judged."

The Jesuits did you a bad turn. I'm a product of 8 years of Jesuit education myself, and but for the Grace of God, I would have been spouting the same piffle as you have.

Show me where Christ said, "Tolerate the deviant and the sexaually immoral. Encourage them in their vice and tell them that it's fine and healthy to like porn." No, that's not what he taught at all, is it. Instead, he said:

"You have heard that it was said to the ancients, 'Thou shalt not commit adultery.' But I say to you that anyone who so much as looks with lust at a woman has already committed adultery with her in is heart. So if thy right eye is an occasion of sin to thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee; for it is better for thee that one of thy members should perish than that thy whole body should be thrown into hell. And if thy right hand is an occasion of sin to thee, cut it off and cast it from thee; for it is better that one of thy members should be lost than that thy whole body should go into hell." Matthew 5:27-30

I had to find that scriptural verse myself. I don't think I ever heard a Jesuit reference it.
487 posted on 05/19/2005 8:58:16 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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