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(DAY-2) LIVE U.S. SENATE "Nuclear" THREAD: for judicial nominations: C-span 2 - 9:30 am EST
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Posted on 05/18/2005 10:21:08 PM PDT by davidosborne

Text Credit to Ken5050: DAY-1 THREAD

Welcome, all you Freepers, to the continuing C-span soap operas about judicial nominations. "The Guiding SEARCHLIGHT, " "As the SENATE Turns, "One NOMINATION to Live" "GERIATRIC Hospital" (for all you Byrd and Lautenberg fans out there). Follow along with us, as the Dems raise the level of histrionics, bloviation, pontification, and all around bad acting to new highs, er, lows...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; 8hoursearly; constitutionaloption; democratnukereaction; filibuster; may19th2005; obstructionistdems; reidsnuclearreaction; showdown
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To: Howlin

Ironic ain't it? I can't stand this! The Dems are hanging themselves! That is a good thing!


201 posted on 05/19/2005 7:01:20 AM PDT by defconw
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To: Howlin
Do they think Frist isn't going to answer that question?

Yes

202 posted on 05/19/2005 7:02:04 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: davidosborne

You need to ADD Sen. Mike DEWINE of Ohio

Please, everyone, CONTACT HIM.

He's ACTIVELY involved in the "Compromise" talks.

I have lots of friends and family in Ohio and this is starting to get very embarrassing. He's another one people don't know about and I'm sure he'll be "surprised" by the outcry when it's too late. CONTACT HIM, now.


203 posted on 05/19/2005 7:02:19 AM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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To: defconw

These are the pettiest people I've ever seen in my life.


204 posted on 05/19/2005 7:02:24 AM PDT by Howlin (No Judge "LEFT BEHIND!" - No Deal!!!)
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To: defconw

Reid keeps accusing Brown of interjecting right wing philosophical ideas into her rulings...

But just a few minutes ago he was praising Justice Kennedy that admits to using foreign law in his decisions, right?


205 posted on 05/19/2005 7:02:38 AM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: davidosborne

My disingenious Senator Schuckie's stuck on Paez...good use of your time, idiot. I want to b-slap my state.


206 posted on 05/19/2005 7:02:46 AM PDT by soloNYer (Albany Slimes Union: trying to get to the left of their heroes the New York Slimes)
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To: hoosiermama

We will!


207 posted on 05/19/2005 7:03:17 AM PDT by Howlin (No Judge "LEFT BEHIND!" - No Deal!!!)
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To: All

The whole Democratic side is scrippted, what a bunch of mopes. I like the Dog and Pony Show reference ! LOL Now we are the FAR FAR RIGHT! LOL


208 posted on 05/19/2005 7:03:47 AM PDT by defconw
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To: Bush 100 Percent
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Senate Offices:

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Cloak Room Republican: (202) 224-6191

209 posted on 05/19/2005 7:04:53 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: dts32041

You are going to be devestated by the Republicans hitting the button.


210 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:01 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: greasepaint

That may be do-able, friend. I don't know the answer to your proposition
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However, I wouldn't be troubled if I were you because Frist will demand an up or down vote on Owen.

Another factor that makes me confident that the GOP will prevail on this is: have you noticed that the same democratic senators are taking the floor to debate this? Notice: Reid, Schumer, Kennedy, Murray and Durbin (all far left blue-staters who are in no risk of losing their jobs). Notice also the absence of Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. They are not aligning with the far left either. You will not see a red-state democrat on the floor to support filibusters. Landrieu, Lincoln, Pryor, Nelson are all trying to negotiate.


211 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:10 AM PDT by katieanna (My Redeemer Liveth!)
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To: Howlin

These are the pettiest people I've ever seen in my life.
What?


212 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:16 AM PDT by defconw
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To: cc2k
If the majority wants to debate the issue, then vote on it, then they will not allow a motion to recess for the night or anything other than a cloture motion to pass. The other side can keep talking.

Yes. I see that. But how does the proponent, even a majority proponent, FORCE the other side to keep talking? What would change the "can" in the last sentence, quoted above, into a "must"? That's the part I can't find.

213 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I'm not talking about the cloture rule. I'm talking about the rule that says that you need two-thirds of the senators to change a rule. How many votes were there when that rule was adopted, or does that stem from the first Congress?


214 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:22 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: greasepaint

You can filibuster a rule change, and the filibuster requires 60% of all members.

I don't think the Republicans are doing a good enough job getting people out to explain, or answering the democrats on the floor.

I think that they should take notes, and each time they get to speak they should specifically refute whatever the democrats just said in their previous time.

For example, there is current NO agreed-to rule for this session of the Senate regarding filibusters, because Frist objected to the rule and there was no vote to override his objection.

So in fact there is no filibuster rule in effect (unless you believe that the previous senate rules can be applied to this senate).

Also yesterday Schumer used the chart showing no republicans voted against any nominees. We have a chart showing that in 8 years the democrats only voted a total of 11 times against all of Clinton's nominees, we should have had that back out. We also should have had our speaker point out that there is no reason to vote against qualified nominees. AND we should have had a chart showing the votes of republicans for CLINTON nominees vs the vote of democrats for BUSH, to show that republicans in general vote more often for the other party's nominees than the democrats (showing the democrats are more partisan about nominees).

There may have been a few people who turned it on at dinner, they saw the democrats, and no response from republicans (Coburn was on, and he was good but didn't address any of Schumer's points).


215 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:50 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (http://spaces.msn.com/members/criticallythinking)
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To: Howlin

Well, I guess they aren't embarressed to display their childishness for the world to see---

I wonder if ole Reid stomps his feet during the private meetings?

BTW, they keep going on and on about "advice and consent"--why don't the pubbies get up and say "exactly, it is advice and CONSENT, not advice and reject!"


216 posted on 05/19/2005 7:06:04 AM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: All

Never mind, my bad I read prettiest as opposed to pettiest! May need glasses!


217 posted on 05/19/2005 7:06:36 AM PDT by defconw
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To: Howlin
Dane, make sure Reid is on the "Voted Against Gonzales But Now Quotes Him As the Highest Power" list

That list of those demos as of now is,

reid, kennedy, schumer, murray, and durbin.

218 posted on 05/19/2005 7:07:53 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dad yer funny

I know I don't think Schumer trusts Reid after some of the stupid statements he has made---like last week with the FBI files....

Although, the pubbies should get up and tell the world that it was Shcumer that started the whole filibuster the judges stuff years ago because religious beliefs---they wouldn't even be going through this if it wasn't for him....


219 posted on 05/19/2005 7:08:35 AM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth
Relax.

He did NOT try to get anyone fired. He tried to have the person moved out of his department. Reassignment is not firing. The Dems are still reaching.

220 posted on 05/19/2005 7:09:40 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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