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GOP Aides Say New Patriot Act Obliges Bush
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| 5/18/05
| MARK SHERMAN/AP
Posted on 05/18/2005 5:58:44 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: libertarianben
The government may "protect" us from acts of terror by terrorist but who protects us from acts of terror from our government?
The Second Amendment.
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posted on
05/18/2005 8:30:03 PM PDT
by
Wolfhound777
(It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
To: wagglebee
Makes a person wonder what the PTB have on ole Pat Roberts (R) Kansas or what he's been promised...can't believe he just thought this crap up on his own and decided he needed to do it for the sake of the nation...
imo
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posted on
05/18/2005 8:37:50 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
To: soloNYer
The timing is suspect....so is the suspect :)
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posted on
05/18/2005 8:39:07 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
To: wagglebee
Have you ever thought to consider that maybe the Administration knows that a certain % of judges are sympathetic to the Islamofascist movement?
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posted on
05/18/2005 8:51:14 PM PDT
by
bamaborn
To: bamaborn
The PA is being brought in piecemeal just like the ohio seat belt law.
1st they had a vigorous "click it" campaign that was voluntary.
Later a patrolman could give you a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt ONLY IF he puled you over for say speeding and noticed you where not wearing a belt.
Now a patrolman can ticket you for just not wearing a seatbelt.
Just wait to somebody like Hillary gets in office. Oh boy!!!
Of course Bush is heading right to a police state anyway.
To: wagglebee
I wonder if this is just a leak to stir up trouble, or if they are actually planing to pass this.
If the former, well that is par for the course. The latter? Well, then the Republic and Constitution are just about dead.
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posted on
05/19/2005 6:00:02 AM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: wagglebee
This is a Assoc Press "reporter", meaning a DNC operative, I will wait to see it for myself.
To: superiorslots
Now a patrolman can ticket you for just not wearing a seatbelt. It just keeps getting worse. Seatbelt checkpoint in Delaware.
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posted on
05/19/2005 6:16:48 AM PDT
by
ActionNewsBill
("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
To: wagglebee
IMHO, this is clearly unconstitutional.
But it's ok, because Republicans are in power, and the democrats aren't, right? There's no chance that a democrat will ever have these powers at their disposal, right??
Am I sounding sarcastic or cynical this mornig :-)
To: af_vet_rr
I don't want ANYBODY to have this degree of unchecked power. The Constitution was designed, in part, to protect us from government, this would clearly violate this.
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posted on
05/19/2005 6:51:36 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
All we really need to do is secure the borders
Thanks, I needed to start the day off with a laugh. Don't you know, it's much easier to stop the terrorists after they are already in the country?
To: Wolfhound777
The Second Amendment doesn't matter anymore. Look at all the gun laws.
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posted on
05/19/2005 8:03:24 AM PDT
by
libertarianben
(Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
To: ActionNewsBill
"Your papers please, comrade."
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posted on
05/19/2005 8:36:14 AM PDT
by
rattrap
To: Redcitizen; Steve_Seattle; Celtjew Libertarian
After our discussion yesterday about secret courts and such I thought I'd ping y'all over here.
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posted on
05/19/2005 8:39:22 AM PDT
by
rattrap
To: rattrap
Since it is Star Wars day today and I happen to be a fan...
the correct thing to say in a situation like this is: "you don't need to see our identification. These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along."
Sorry. Could not resist it.
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posted on
05/19/2005 12:42:14 PM PDT
by
Redcitizen
(One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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