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GOP Aides Say New Patriot Act Obliges Bush
Yahoo News ^ | 5/18/05 | MARK SHERMAN/AP

Posted on 05/18/2005 5:58:44 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: libertarianben
The government may "protect" us from acts of terror by terrorist but who protects us from acts of terror from our government?

The Second Amendment.
21 posted on 05/18/2005 8:30:03 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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Makes a person wonder what the PTB have on ole Pat Roberts (R) Kansas or what he's been promised...can't believe he just thought this crap up on his own and decided he needed to do it for the sake of the nation...

imo

22 posted on 05/18/2005 8:37:50 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: soloNYer

The timing is suspect....so is the suspect :)


23 posted on 05/18/2005 8:39:07 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: wagglebee

Have you ever thought to consider that maybe the Administration knows that a certain % of judges are sympathetic to the Islamofascist movement?


24 posted on 05/18/2005 8:51:14 PM PDT by bamaborn
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The PA is being brought in piecemeal just like the ohio seat belt law.

1st they had a vigorous "click it" campaign that was voluntary.

Later a patrolman could give you a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt ONLY IF he puled you over for say speeding and noticed you where not wearing a belt.

Now a patrolman can ticket you for just not wearing a seatbelt.


Just wait to somebody like Hillary gets in office. Oh boy!!!

Of course Bush is heading right to a police state anyway.


25 posted on 05/19/2005 12:49:10 AM PDT by superiorslots
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To: wagglebee
I wonder if this is just a leak to stir up trouble, or if they are actually planing to pass this.

If the former, well that is par for the course. The latter? Well, then the Republic and Constitution are just about dead.
26 posted on 05/19/2005 6:00:02 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wagglebee

This is a Assoc Press "reporter", meaning a DNC operative, I will wait to see it for myself.


27 posted on 05/19/2005 6:04:04 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: superiorslots
Now a patrolman can ticket you for just not wearing a seatbelt.

It just keeps getting worse. Seatbelt checkpoint in Delaware.


28 posted on 05/19/2005 6:16:48 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: wagglebee
IMHO, this is clearly unconstitutional.

But it's ok, because Republicans are in power, and the democrats aren't, right? There's no chance that a democrat will ever have these powers at their disposal, right??

Am I sounding sarcastic or cynical this mornig :-)
29 posted on 05/19/2005 6:49:48 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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I don't want ANYBODY to have this degree of unchecked power. The Constitution was designed, in part, to protect us from government, this would clearly violate this.


30 posted on 05/19/2005 6:51:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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All we really need to do is secure the borders

Thanks, I needed to start the day off with a laugh. Don't you know, it's much easier to stop the terrorists after they are already in the country?
31 posted on 05/19/2005 6:53:05 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Wolfhound777

The Second Amendment doesn't matter anymore. Look at all the gun laws.


32 posted on 05/19/2005 8:03:24 AM PDT by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: ActionNewsBill

"Your papers please, comrade."
33 posted on 05/19/2005 8:36:14 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Redcitizen; Steve_Seattle; Celtjew Libertarian

After our discussion yesterday about secret courts and such I thought I'd ping y'all over here.


34 posted on 05/19/2005 8:39:22 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: rattrap

Since it is Star Wars day today and I happen to be a fan...

the correct thing to say in a situation like this is: "you don't need to see our identification. These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along."

Sorry. Could not resist it.


35 posted on 05/19/2005 12:42:14 PM PDT by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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