Posted on 05/18/2005 5:48:45 AM PDT by ken5050
Gere is a moron. He can't put 3 words together if it's not from a script. Hubby worked with him briefly once.
I took by shower during Specter, because I had all the goo from Reid speech on me---
This may be a 3-4 shower day....LOL
the first thing that came to mind.....trained gerbils? (sorry, that is bad for this early. I apologize)
Craig Livingstone , Sandy Burglar
percentages, Leahy, percentages. Trying to play games with the reality aren't you?
We'll need a waterfall before this stuff is over.
btt
is = isn't
"Bush is a divider, not a uniter" again. yawn
"You are no ordinary gerbil Lemmiwinks, you are the
Gerbil King!"
- southpark
leahy- How dare the President not cave to us by re-nominating these Justices!
You completely missed my point. My point had nothing to do with Specter. It had to do with getting to the vote WITHOUT invoking cloture.
My speculation may be all wet. But I think a good political approach is to AVOID cloture, and force the DEM Senators to stand one at a time, in objection to taking the vote.
Hmmm. Thanks for the info. Not sure I understand that LBJ part. BUT....myself must ask if a filibuster was used to deny Fortas a judicial appointment (if I understand this correctly) than on what basis are the Repubs stopping such filibusters now?
Because somewhere, out there, this is being fed to the unknowing public.
LOL!!
Voting for DemocracyThe Democratic position on the filibuster comes down to this: Senators should not be allowed to vote up or down on judges, because judges have to stay in the business of keeping voters from being able to decide policy issues. Anti-democratic ends justify anti-democratic means. Almost everything else in the debate is a diversion. The text of the Constitution does not forbid the Senate to let the majority confirm judges, as Democrats preposterously insist; nor does it require it. Only somewhat less preposterously, the Democrats and their pundits have been arguing that the logic and structure of the Constitution support the filibustering of judges: The Constitution is designed to throw up counter-majoritarian obstacles to action. Thats true at a high altitude of abstraction; it does not mean that the particular obstructionist device of filibustering judges is constitutionally required or wise. Filibusters have never been routinely used against judicial nominees never, that is, until Senate Democrats decided to block as many of the important judicial nominees of this administration as they could. There is no reason in principle to reject compromise. But no real compromise has been offered. Senate Democrats have floated various proposals, under all of which they reserve the right to filibuster extremist nominees. Their promiscuous use of the filibuster against extremist nominees demonstrates their elastic definition of the term. If Republicans accept these proposals, the Democrats will carry on filibustering and Republicans will face the same choice as today. The Democrats hope is that they will face that choice under worse circumstances than they do now. They are trying to buy time. For Republicans to leave the filibusters in place now after months of demanding a change would be ignominious. The same pundits who are saying that the majority party should not insist on its prerogatives would turn around and say that the majority party is responsible and should be held accountable for everything the government does. More important, a surrender would tell everyone conservative voters, Democratic senators and interest groups, and the White House that Republican senators were irresolute in their support for judicial conservatism. It would thus set back the urgent cause of a reformation of the federal judiciary.
privileges, the majority is called on to take corrective action. This is such a time.
A majority of the Senate has to be able to set the bodys rules. It would be unwise for it to do so without regard for the minority. After all, every senator will be in the minority on some issue, and every senator is one election away from the possibility of being in the minority most of the time. But when the minority abuses its privileges, the majority is called on to take corrective action. This is such a time. The liberal minority in the Senate is trying to keep the courts in the business of imposing the left-wing agenda that the public wont vote for on its own. This project should be brought to an end by bringing an end to the filibustering of judges. |
Leahy says the judiciary is the branch 'most respected by the people'. Yeah, socialists!
Another half our or so of this? Ay-yi-yi
Bookmark....going in for shower #1.Lots of soap. May need to make a run to the store for Lava soap (do they still make that?)
Does anyone still notice Leaky's still speaking? Best I can gather, he's said:
A. George Bush only wants to be king.
B. George Bush unconstitutionally demands that everything goes his way, because he's a bully.
C. The Senate is really, really important. Particularly the "rights" of the party that's been rejected by the voters.
D. How Americans really respect the judiciary and...
(sputter, choke.... spewed coffee all over keyboard... sorry... sorry...)
Oh, Prairie: I must vehemently disagree. There is a huge amount of honest discussion and "loyal obstructionism" - the big problem is that it is empodied solely in the 6-8 RINOs we all get so angry about - and occasionally a few other Republicans. Not one of the Demodogs ever are part of this discussion any more - they are the real mind-numbed robots.
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