2nd Circuit Upholds New York Handgun Limits (2nd Amendment only covers federal laws - Judge Wesley)

New York Law Journal ^ | 5-10-2005 | Mark Hamblett

[Sir Gawain]

Please die soon traitorous bastards.

[Sir Gawain]

Of natural causes of course.

[longtermmemmory]

Actually if you really want to take it further, the first nine amendments are specifically about the rights of the individual.

It is just the left that wants to carve out an anti individual, collective exception for the second amendment.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Except for being a little pricey, I can't argue with you.

I'd love to have one, but right now, finances guarantee I'll be shooting what I have on hand for the next few years at least.

[patton]

Pin ping ping ping

Can I join in ? I own houses in both VA an NY, and posess a VA CCW.

I also have significantly more than a TS clearance, am a member of the draft board (presidential appointment, no less), and worked in the pentagon for two years (ending in 2003).

[dhs12345]

And same-sex marriages from other states....

[Badray]

Thanks for posting this. I've been so confused thinking that I had rights because of my Creator. Now I know that the gubmint will decide for me what I'm allowed to do and if I can defend my life against predators.

I know that there is NOTHING about New York that would induce me to go there or spend any money there. If I have a choice of products made in New York or any other foreign country, I pick one of the other foreign countries.

[devolve]

[jwalsh07]

Same analysis as mine, selective incorporation by unoriginal whackjobs with a cause.

[glock rocks]

[Smartass]

Mordue, Norman A.

Born 1942 in Elmira, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Northern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on October 5, 1998, to a seat vacated by Rosemary S. Pooler;
Confirmed by the Senate on October 21, 1998, and received commission on October 22, 1998.

Education:
Syracuse University, B.A., 1966
Syracuse University College of Law, J.D., 1971

Professional Career:
U.S. Army Captain, 1966-1968
Law clerk, Onondaga County District Attorney's Office, Onondaga County, New York, 1970-1972
Assistant district attorney, Onondaga County, New York, 1972-1974
Senior assistant district attorney, Onondaga County, New York, 1974-1976
Chief assistant district attorney, Onondaga County, New York, 1976-1982
Adjunct professor of law, Syracuse University College of Law
County court judge, Onondaga County, New York, 1982-1985
Justice, New York Supreme Court, Fifth Judicial District, New York, 1985-1998

Race or Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Text of the Second Amendment
"A well regulated Militia
being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Anyone who actually reads AND understands the 2nd Amendment will see that there is no need or authority for any type of gun registration and there is no need for anyone to have to apply for a license to carry a gun.
Any political party, politician, judge (etc), organization or individual who trys to convince you that:
1) you must register a firearm
2) you must pass a background check
3) you must wait (x) amount of days before you can get your firearm
4) you need to have a license to carry a gun
is either uneducated about OUR rights as citizens
OR is actively working to undermine OUR country.

How Did the Founders Understand the Second Amendment?

CONGRESS in 1866, 1941 and 1986 REAFFIRMS THE SECOND AMENDMENT
The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment right to keep and bear firearms,
originated in the United States Congress in 1789 before being ratified by the States.
On three occasions since then--in 1866, 1941, and 1986--
Congress enacted statutes to reaffirm this guarantee of personal freedom
and to adopt specific safeguards to enforce it.

ON THE DAY BEFORE Thanksgiving 1993,
the 103d US Congress brought forth a constitutional turkey.
The 103d Congress decided that the Second Amendment did not mean what it said
("...shall not be infringed") and passed the Brady bill.
How the Brady Bill Passed (and subsequently - "Instant Check")
When the Brady Bill was passed into law on November 24, 1993,
the Senate voted on the Conference Report
and passed the Brady Bill by UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

[international american]

BTTT

[zip]

Mordue held that Bach could not allege a constitutional right to bear arms because the "Second Amendment is not a source of individual rights." And the Privileges and Immunities Clause was not violated by the permit rule, he said, because "the factor of residence has a substantial and legitimate connection with the purposes of the permit scheme such that the disparate treatment of nonresidents is justifiable."

Is it possible that this a liberal court? Wake up, people.

[beebuster2000]

just a question:

are you allowed to own handguns in New York State?
without a special licence?

[de Buillion]

"Get a good bolt action rifle, some good optics and PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!"

I have a Rem bdl in .308 Win, Hvy bbl varmit (26"), with a 40xb trigger (adj down to abt 2 oz. I believe), and burris 6x18scope. It shoots 1/2 min accuracy. And, of course, several reloading dies.

[groanup]

"What I don't understand is how people can argue that every other amendment gives individual rights, BUT NOT THE 2ND." Because it is convinient for liberal statists:

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/unabridged.2nd.html

[Blood of Tyrants]

Expected from a state run for and by commies.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Only a gun hating liberal could read the same word in the same context and come up with different meaning. I hope this goes to appeal.

[Blood of Tyrants]

And just where is the long awaited sequel?