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Even Deep Discounts Can't Move SUVs
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | May 8, 2005 | Michael Taylor

Posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:14 AM PDT by MississippiMasterpiece

It's a Saturday morning on San Leandro's Marina Boulevard auto row, and the big SUVs have been sitting on the lots, waiting for someone to come in and start that dealer dollar dance that ends up with the customer slightly bewildered but paying a lot less for that vehicle than he thought he was going to.

Once in a while, there are takers, although the dealer has to discount the SUV heavily just to get it moving.

Salvador Sotello, for example, recently paid F.H. Dailey Chevrolet in San Leandro $41,000 for a new Chevy Tahoe LT (yes, with leather) SUV that had a sticker price of $58,000. The sale was an anomaly in what is otherwise a pretty dismal selling season. "It's been pretty quiet," saleswoman Crystal Gonzalez said the other day. "Been pretty slow."

At Broadway Ford in Oakland, the grilles of the Mustangs, SUVs and the lone Thunderbird smile at the passing traffic, but the showroom is empty, it appears, of customers; several salesmen are in sight. Up at Albany Ford-Subaru, salesman Myers Howard, sitting a few feet away from a big Ford pickup truck, says things on the Ford side of the showroom "are slow." That might be the understatement of the day.

Just this past week, General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. underwent the humiliation of seeing their credit ratings reduced by Standard & Poor's Ratings Services to the status of junk. The reasons are becoming clear -- the two big companies can't sell much of what they produce.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: autosales; suv
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

Gotta be a tree hugger.


381 posted on 05/09/2005 7:10:02 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: brownsfan

You are wrong. If you have the proper lights and signals you can drive a tank on the road, as long as weight requirements and licensing are correct.


382 posted on 05/09/2005 7:12:30 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: television is just wrong
No one wants a suv that gets 8 mi per gal on a good day when gas is over $3.00 a gallon.

My SUV gets 18 miles a gal. I don't consider this bad.
383 posted on 05/09/2005 7:20:17 PM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
So I read through the first 100 posts, and the only price anybody mentioned was gasoline price. The original story starts out with a story about a guy who paid 41K for an SUV with a $58,000 sticker price.

I don't care what the mileage is, I can't get past the purchase price.

384 posted on 05/09/2005 7:21:22 PM PDT by Bernard (The UN should be dissolved and replaced. The replacement should have a 50-year maximum lifespan.)
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To: brownsfan

So you support those who would kills on a daily basis? You better get rid of your car and start walking.


385 posted on 05/09/2005 7:23:47 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: Centurion2000

That should frost them! Personally I think brownsfan and thoughttomato are the same guy.


386 posted on 05/09/2005 7:27:30 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: jcb8199

Bookmark


387 posted on 05/09/2005 7:28:07 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Junior

That time to react is called tailgating.


388 posted on 05/09/2005 7:28:56 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: brownsfan
brownsfan said: "The left is not always wrong. The right is not always correct."

What you have said explains why the red states and the blue states are not yet engaged in open warfare. It is not justification for adopting the thinking of the left.

389 posted on 05/09/2005 7:35:24 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: brownsfan

"socialism is superior to capitalism."
TROLL!


390 posted on 05/09/2005 7:40:17 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: brownsfan

Not at all. If you make enough money and you really care, donate to charity.


391 posted on 05/09/2005 7:44:08 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: brownsfan

The left is always wrong.


392 posted on 05/09/2005 7:47:38 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: ihv2bme

Ya, isn't thoughtomato a freaking genuis?


393 posted on 05/09/2005 7:54:39 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: DugwayDuke
It truely amazes me when conservatives adopt liberal logic and arguments to restrict the freedom of their fellow Americans.

Remember though, these aren't conservatives. They're Republicans. Big difference. I have a full size Dodge truck and a Harley, so I can honestly say I see both views from the road. I don't like SUVs just because it's not my style. Never have seen a SUV that I would want to drive. But I'm also not going to tell someone what they should drive out of concerns of 'safety' either. If you've got a gaggle of kids or need a vehicle for transporting something you don't want to get wet, I guess a SUV is definitely the way to go. And it should be a person's right to go buy one instead of a group of nannies telling us what we should drive

394 posted on 05/09/2005 7:55:08 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

My Tahoe costs me about 45 bucks to fill up now, vs. about 32 or so if gas were a buck fifty a gallon. I fill up roughly 4 times a month, so thats an extra $48. I'd rather spend that on other things, of course, but I'd gladly pay an extra 50 a month to not have to drive a vehicle that gets 20 mpg, since that's what would be required to bring the fuel costs down to what my Tahoe would use at a dollar fifty a gallon.

I remember my sister getting gas after she first started driving. Sometime around 1973. I think gas prices were 39 cents a gallon then.


395 posted on 05/09/2005 7:55:18 PM PDT by 1L
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To: DugwayDuke
-"You have no right to demand that everyone else adopt your risk preferences."

You sound as the one that wants everyone to adapt to your beliefs!!!!!!!!!!!! Get over it! People will choose to buy what they want...you sound like a Democrat!!!!!!!!
396 posted on 05/09/2005 8:18:02 PM PDT by ihv2bme
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To: KingofQue

If you'll notice I have not said a word about mileage other than to note that higher gas prices means fewer SUVs on the road. I could care less about oil consumption, what I want is to be able to drive on the road normally without having to play defense against what SUV drivers who feel invulnerable - or just don't care about how they affect others on the road - might do.


397 posted on 05/09/2005 9:19:24 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is a law.")
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To: Petronski

Name-calling is the last resort of the man who has run out of arguments. Given that I made the effort to put forward an honest, straightforward expression of how I see it, don't you think it appropriate to meet it with at least a polite response, if not a reasonable one?


398 posted on 05/09/2005 9:23:26 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is a law.")
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To: speed_addiction

If you buy one of those it's more likely you have an addiction to plastic. I call them have-a-lunches since they look like a toy that transformed out of a plastic lunch box.


399 posted on 05/09/2005 9:25:52 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: thoughtomator

It isn't name-calling if it is true. You're talking about some kind of government agency that will hear and approve a citizen's "need" for an SUV.

There's no good word for it. It's fascist.


Also, for clarification, name-calling would be if I said YOU were fascist. I don't know that. But the opinion you state is fascist.


400 posted on 05/09/2005 9:26:48 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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