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Time to prosecute the Free Republic vandal outright. (Vanity)
today | By Lazamataz

Posted on 05/09/2005 5:54:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz

There is an internet vandal who defaces Free Republic with very gross pictures (homosexual sex and stuff from rotton.com) as well as posting "ALL YOU F***** N*****S & JEWS SHOULD BE LYNCHED".

He pings a variety of people to his post, ensuring that the trash is still in their My Posts lists.

To me, this isn't the milder form of harassment that Eschoir engaged in so many years ago. The very worst he would do is ask if you ever committed sodomy, and he once used the screen name "Paula Jones Tw*t". This is mild.

What this sick piece of work is doing is much more egregious. I believe it crosses the line into criminal defacement and restraint of trade. Are there any Free Republic lawyers (especially prosecutors) who can address this issue, and are there any private detectives with internet savvy that will help track the identity of this person down?


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To: Lazamataz

That is not what he used however, he has his own system that does the same thing where every click, as he says, sends out a new IP from the last.


301 posted on 05/09/2005 6:51:29 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Admin Moderator
Me neither.

Well, heck, appoint me then. If nominated, I will run, and if elected, I will serve. ;^)

302 posted on 05/09/2005 6:51:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Lazamataz

I don't know if IP tracking blocking is the easy way to do this. If a person has a legit reason to be on FR he would be posting from probably no more than three traceable, static IP addresses. These could be individually confirmed as not being proxies at the time the person signs up or requests another IP to post from. This would give the admins time to check approve or deny the IP/poster. If it wouldn't be too much the admins could talk with someone signing up via their sign up e-mail, I would guess that alone would stop some disrupters.


303 posted on 05/09/2005 6:51:47 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: mhking; jude24

Dear mhking,

"Harassment would probably be a civil action, but I'm sure he could get nailed on federal hate speech/crime statutes."

Although there are hate crime statutes, from what I know, these merely amount to aggravating circumstances of an underlying crime. Thus, if one kills someone and the motive is racial hatred, then the "hate crime" attaches to the underlying crime of murder.

I'm unaware of any pure "hate speech" statutes. Remember, they let the Nazis march in Skokie. They just had to follow the rules set forth by the community. And I think that's jude24's point. The disruptor didn't "break in" to FR, but rather, gained access the way everyone else does - he registered.

He engaged in posting, which is a permitted activity. When the moderators of the site determined his postings violated the rules of the forum, he was required to leave the forum. So far, he has not re-entered in an unauthorized way, at least of which I'm aware.

It may be possible to get a restraining order forbidding him to re-register and post, and possibly a violation thereto might attach some criminal liability. But if the registration system doesn't keep him out, then I'm still trying to figure out exactly what would be the basis for criminal prosecution.


sitetest


304 posted on 05/09/2005 6:51:48 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: jude24
(Which is odd - that indicates a fair amount of knowledge of the players here.)

When that is combined with the "infiltration" from posters on StormFront (there are some there who have specifically stated their intent to disrupt at FR), lends credence to a goal of going after specific people.

305 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:21 AM PDT by mhking ("Today, we're gonna do things the RIGHT way...")
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To: jude24

Keep it simple. The fellow posted obscenity and intended to elicit an emotional response. That is the offense.


306 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:23 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: mhking

As I and others have pointed out the problem with civil litigation is that FR is not a profit-making concern; if JR was charging $10 a registration or something then you could at least begin to entertain it.


307 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:24 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: jude24

Did you read my earlier post about this not being an adult website and that children do frequent here? Offering or supplying pornography to minors, if not mistaken is a federal crime at least I know it is a state crime. Now, if this guy is out of country that would be differant.


308 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:35 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: rdb3; sageb1
I've never had a conversation about this with Jim, or the Mods. Not to say that he hasn't discussed this, just not with me.

Ditto.

309 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:51 AM PDT by mhking ("Today, we're gonna do things the RIGHT way...")
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To: Strategerist
the ONLY successful "prosecutions"

Well, define successful. If the kid or his parents are forced to spend thousands on an attorney, to me, that is some measure of success.

310 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
"I am a detective by trade. Let me know if I can help. I can determine anything about anyone.."


Okay ... Check out this link and see what you think.

Just scroll down to James54.

311 posted on 05/09/2005 6:53:01 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
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To: Brett66

Post 39 was removed. That **** should never be on this site.


312 posted on 05/09/2005 6:53:37 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE BLUE PIMPLE IN A SEA OF RED!)
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To: Lazamataz
Can we not use these lists or some internal property of said server to deny access by anonymous and high-anonymous proxy servers?

That would be a piece of cake, especially if this site uses Apache.


313 posted on 05/09/2005 6:53:56 AM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: G.Mason
I cannot believe any jury could be cajoled into believing that post was political in content

Agreed. I hardly see where "ALL YOU F***** N*****S & JEWS SHOULD BE LYNCHED" qualifies as protected political speech. It is harrassment and a threat of physical harm.

314 posted on 05/09/2005 6:54:16 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: dynoman; Final Authority
I don't know if IP tracking blocking is the easy way to do this. If a person has a legit reason to be on FR he would be posting from probably no more than three traceable, static IP addresses. These could be individually confirmed as not being proxies at the time the person signs up or requests another IP to post from. This would give the admins time to check approve or deny the IP/poster.

Cool, this would help deny the 'random IP generator' that Final Authority described.

315 posted on 05/09/2005 6:54:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Valin
"Stupid question (my specialty) can the photos messages be traced back to their point of origin?"

If you right click and view "properties," you sometimes can see where the image is being stored. I didn't think of it until after the fact. I was in a state of shock.

316 posted on 05/09/2005 6:54:43 AM PDT by sageb1
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To: sageb1

Just wondering...when you say everyone has them in their cache, did you have to be pinged for that to happen, or do you have them just because you logged on to FR? And do you have to have opened that particular thread?


317 posted on 05/09/2005 6:54:48 AM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Strategerist
FR isn't a money-making entity so I see the above going exactly nowhere.

Granted. However, it is non-profit corporation, whose stated "business" purpose is spelled out in its Articles of Incorporation, and the Rules of the forum. Just because it is non-profit, and not expressly involved in commercial trade, it is still an entity whose overhead is substantial, and requires mass popularity to succeed at sustaining itself. Intentional harassments with the kind of posts alluded to are for the express purpose of damaging the corporate entity, through alienation and disaffection of its "membership".

That being said, I also unfortunately have to agree with you and doubt the likelihood of prevailing. And it certainly would not be cheap.

318 posted on 05/09/2005 6:55:21 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Working for God on earth does not pay much, but His Retirement plan is out of this world.)
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To: rdb3; John Robinson
[Using lists or some internal property of said server to deny access by anonymous and high-anonymous proxy servers] would be a piece of cake, especially if this site uses Apache.

Then let us make it so.

319 posted on 05/09/2005 6:55:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: eastforker
Dissemination of pornography to minors requires that one knows, or is reckless, about the fact that children are on this site, and that he does so anyway.

Proving the requisite mental state would be a pain in the butt. Do we ever explicitly say, "This is a family site"?

320 posted on 05/09/2005 6:55:47 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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