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Let’s Make It An Amicable Split When Quebec Finally Separates
Columnist Section ^ | May 8, 2005 | Paul Jackson

Posted on 05/08/2005 8:34:07 AM PDT by UpHereEh

I’ve written that, before any couple starts to plan a honeymoon vacation to Europe, they should visit Quebec.

That goes for a lot of other would-be world travellers, too.

In Quebec, we have what amounts to a foreign country—a slab of continental Europe—right on our doorstep.

Quebec City is the most historic and beautiful capital in our country, the Gaspe is marvelous, and the Laurentians magnificent.

Yet, since the currency is the same no one will gyp you, drinking the tap water won’t make you sick, and if they can, and many can’t, Quebecers will speak to you in your own language.

I’ve spent a lot of happy times in Quebec, especially in old Montreal, and it’s all rather enchanting.

Setting the scene for this column in this way will, I hope, prevent anyone from labelling me anti-French Canadian or anti-Quebec.

After all, the Jean Chretien/Paul Martin Liberals are ever eager to hurl slurs at people. Particularly so when it comes to Quebec, which is a charade, since those of us with an ounce of common sense now know the sudden surge of separatist fever in la belle province has been spurred by the Chretien/Martin clique itself, and by the shameless looting of the taxpayers’ money as evidence by revelations coming out of Mr. Justice John Gomery’s inquiry.

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To: Alberta's Child
By George, I think you've got it!

FMCDH(BITS)

21 posted on 05/08/2005 9:38:07 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

No, the southern states voted to secceed but they were never able to complete the actual separating part.


22 posted on 05/08/2005 9:40:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Imagine how outraged the UN will be at the USA becoming LARGER.

Would this make the United States a larger block than the eu?

It would definitly involve oil.


23 posted on 05/08/2005 9:44:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: UpHereEh

Just tell the little frogs that they have a country if they want one. It's called FRANCE! Have a nice trip.


24 posted on 05/08/2005 9:48:05 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: UpHereEh

Could'nt agree more. My mother is from Murray Bay (La Malbaie) and I spent every summer of my childhood there. Would recommend a vacation to Quebec and upper Quebec without reservation.

Proviso: do some research on their current attitudes towards Americans. Even with my half Quebec blood, I would not recommend spending a tourist penny there if I am welcome as a US Citizen.


25 posted on 05/08/2005 10:00:37 AM PDT by ananda
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To: longtermmemmory
Alberta may secede from Canada, but it'll be a cold day in hell before they ever join the U.S.

They aren't stupid up there -- they realize that a Federal government in Washington D.C. would be worse than a Federal government in Ottawa.

26 posted on 05/08/2005 10:16:42 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: UpHereEh
Alberta will continue to be bled dry by Ottawa and Quebec will continue bleed Qttawa.. a parasitic situation.. Whos to go the hosts or the parasites.?.. To Canadians generally love a parasite / host relationship and see it as normal.. But there is one word Canadians cannot pronounce, "socialism". You will not hear that word spoken, its simply just not socially acceptable to say..

Socialism is slavery by government and it could be said Canadians are slaves by their own choosing.. Wonder if their is a Canadian in the whole country that would actually turn down a government check... Probably not.. Parasitism is an infectious social disease..

27 posted on 05/08/2005 10:24:19 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Alberta's Child
As a practical matter, it would be hard to do. How would we address Social Security for Albertans? There are a million other questions just like that.

We like Alberta's oil and conservative spirit, but we might be far better off with it as an independent but friendly ally.

28 posted on 05/08/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: UpHereEh

Quebec could join St. Pierre and Miquelon as French overseas possessions. After all, they apparently want to rewind back to the 18th century and be a French colony anyway.

Regards, Ivan


29 posted on 05/08/2005 10:26:18 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Para-Ord.45
New Quebec was added to the province later and is mostly inhabited by Indians or Eskimos, so that could be a major problem--and it has a lot of resources so the Quebecois wouldn't want to leave without it. There is also an area just north of the New York line, the Eastern Townships, where a lot of people speak English, and might prefer to stay in Canada.

The Old City of Quebec is very nice. There's even a marker on one of the main streets in honor of the American Richard Montgomery, killed in the attack on Dec. 31, 1775 (namesake of a number of Montgomery Counties in the US). I didn't have any unpleasant encounters with the locals when I visited, but maybe I was just lucky.

30 posted on 05/08/2005 10:26:56 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: UpHereEh

Why would Quebec leave Canada when it can milk the Canadian taxpayers for all they are worth?

I visited Quebec city once for a weekend conference. It is, indeed, like a little piece of Europe, but to my eye at least without any of the charm of a real French city or town. Two days were enough to see the whole thing and be ready to leave.


31 posted on 05/08/2005 10:37:36 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alberta's Child

No doubt about it. Quebec's not going anywhere.


32 posted on 05/08/2005 12:06:49 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MadIvan
Quebec could join St. Pierre and Miquelon as French overseas possessions.

See Monroe Doctrine.

33 posted on 05/08/2005 12:06:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Mike Darancette

Well technically, the US should have declared war on France when they put an emperor on the throne of Mexico in the 19th century - that was a much bigger violation of the Monroe Doctrine.

Regards, Ivan


34 posted on 05/08/2005 12:08:46 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
Well technically, the US should have declared war on France when they put an emperor on the throne of Mexico in the 19th century

We were busy (Civil War) but even with that we helped the Mexicans.

35 posted on 05/08/2005 12:10:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Mike Darancette

Still, it's Quebec we're talking about. Do you really care?

Regards, Ivan


36 posted on 05/08/2005 12:11:40 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Visit Quebec ! ? Only if you like being treated like pond scum.

I live near the border with PQ and have been there a few times. No real problems.

However it seems that every person I know from the US who has visited in the last few years has either had things stolen from them or almost stolen.

One pair of fellows who went up on a fishing trip stopped for a meal at a restaurant and came out to find their pickup camper shell broken into and emptied of a few thousand bucks worth of gear.

Another few friends were up snowmobiling and stoppped at a bar/restaurant. They were alerted by the owner to check on their snow machines as some guys were in the process of loading them on trailers. He had already called the cops.

When I go up, I pull into a chain link fence and barbed wire surrounded compound, and the gate is locked behind us.

It has gotten really bad since the gun laws came into effect up there and the crooks know you're unarmed.

I never leave my vehicle from my sight.

We used to go up quite often, but very seldom now.

On the other hand, the laws since 9-11 have also made it very hard for some folks I know in Quebec to conduct business in the USA.

One, who is in his 60s now and has been crossing the border to buy and sell (mostly buy) from American companies for over 30 years can no longer enter the US.

He had gotten into a fight when he was a teenager while visiting the US. Since that is on his record he is now barred form entering... All because of the Patriot act.

The fact that he is now a mature adult and has uneventfully conducted business and travelled all over the USA doesn't count.

It's a bad situation all around and I don't see any sign of a chance for any improvement.

37 posted on 05/08/2005 12:15:31 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: UpHereEh

This post makes me laugh. Do you really think the U.S. would want anything to to with a seperate Quebec? Please. Quebec has the highest unionization percentage and is by far the most left leaning province in Canada, and that's saying something. Plus, ff you don't know french, Quebecers want nothing to do with you, with the exception of Montrealers.
There's no way Quebec will seperate, and if they do it will be to their own peril.


38 posted on 05/08/2005 12:17:57 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: MadIvan
Don't care about Quebec but I wouldn't want a French Territory on our Northern Border. Britain at least has the Channel.
39 posted on 05/08/2005 12:22:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Dog Gone

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org answers some of the questions regarding medicine and ss programs.

This is not the first time this issue has been contemplated and canadians experts did a meeting in the late 1990's and came to the conclusion that canada merging into the USA was inevitable. (1 to 2 hundred years max)


40 posted on 05/08/2005 5:22:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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