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Photo's: Historic United States Disciplinary Barracks (Ft. Leavenworth KS)Before and After
Fellow Freeper StarCMC allowing me to use her site to host these photo's | May 8, 2005 | self / Chele / Former Military Chick

Posted on 05/07/2005 10:32:50 PM PDT by Former Military Chick


Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary. There are several prison's in the greater Leavenworth area besides the military and federal penitentiary. - FMC

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This actually a distance photo, from a viewing deck, as you can see far away, again, this is the "Big House" the Federal Penitentiary. - FMC

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For the life of me I cannot remember the type of animal (type of live stock) that is in the photo. Buffalo?? But, they are actually as well known as the Prison (federal pen). - FMC

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Another view of the new military prison. - FMC

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Plaque by the entrance of the old cemetery. - FMC

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While I would not go out seeking this spot, those who were condemned many years ago, actually have a nice resting place. The weeping willow is magnificent. - FMC

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First stone I came upon. - FMC

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I am actually enclosing this one, because I like the angle and final result. - FMC

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Another angle of the USDB cemetery. - FMC - FMC

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The German headstones are all the way at the back of the cemetery. -FMC

When I originally posted this on FR and the Kodak Gallery site, I had been asked many times about the German grave marker's and the flowers and if I could find out what it is all about, as of this posting the following is what I have uncovered.<>

On August 25, 1945, seven U-boat POWs were executed at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas for the beating and hanging of another U-boat man--Werner Drechsler--at Papago Park POW camp in Arizona in March 1944. The U-boat men felt justified for their actions, as it was determined Drechsler had been working with American authorities to gain military information from other POWs.

On the back row, of the fourteen POW graves, the seven graves to the far right are the U-boat men's, from left to right...

Plastic bouquets and small faded flags were already in place at each headstone, indicating the local woman was still visiting this site quite regulalry.

A local German-American woman visits regularly by all accounts, and plastic flowers were still evident on many of the gavesites.

The other seven of the fourteen gravesites were German POWs executed for two separate deaths of another German POW, from left to right, with date of execution.

Walter Beyer, July 10, 1945
Berthold Seidel, July 10, 1945
Hans Demme, July 10, 1945
Hans Schomer, July 10, 1945
Willi Scholz, July 10, 1945
Erich Gauss, July 14, 1945
Rudolf Straub, July 14, 1945

***The first five (older sergeants in the Afrika Korps) were found guilty in the beating death of Johann Kunze at Camp Tonkawa in Oklahoma in November 1943. Kunze had been determined to have given the Americans information about secret installations in Hamburg, which would have been useful in Allied bombing raids.

***The last two (sergeants) were found guilty in the strangling death of Horst Guenther near Camp Gordon, Georgia in April 1944. Guenther had stood accused of warning American authorities of an ntended prisoner work stoppage and also that he liked jazz music, both indicating anti-German sentiments.

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German POW grave marker. - FMC

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German POW grave marker. - FMC

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I believe this is the last one to be buried at this site. -FMC

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The old "United States Disciplinary Barracks", it is currently being demolished but they were kind enough to give me access to photograph what is still standing. -FMC


Entrance. - FMC

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I cannot describe this in a way that convey's the depth they put this prison into the earth. It is deep, indeed. Any cell's down there, well, you would never break free. - FMC

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Watch towers. - FMC

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Other watch towers. - FMC

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I took this one because I thought it odd, to have just the top stoop with all the barb wire and not the rest of the stairwell. - FMC

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Directorate of Programs and Services. -FMC

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Medical and dental services - FMC

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Evidently they still do use this as a current job in the prison (embroidery). - FMC

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Where JAG was housed. - FMC

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Have to tell you I am not sure what the purpose of the sunroom at the back of the building was for. - FMC

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This is the first of 2 images, showing how vast the Prison was in it's day. - FMC

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This is the same image as above only I zoomed and you can see the watch towers. - FMC

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Installation and furniture repair and Parole and Classification - FMC

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Another entrance to the old prison - FMC

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The rocks you see to the left, along side the prison, is the actual rock that was used when the prison was first constructed, inmates putting it one on top of the other, real hard time for sure. - FMC

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This the other side of the above sun room photo, who knows what it was used for. - FMC


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: devolve; xsysmgr; Gipper08; Reaganwuzthebest; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; ..
#39

"American Blacks and Hispanics have a higher crime rate than American Caucasians, but the media and pro-OBLoser Lobby delight in inflating the numbers of American minorities in prison to further their "victimization" scenarios."

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True. And this national economic and social nightmare will only get deeper as these minorities are further locked out of traditional job niches they have banked on for generations which are now being captured by the invading illegal alien invasion. (Who by the way are no way in hell going to 'surrender' them willingly.)

Ask any honest economist in the world what runaway immigration does to a national economy and society. What makes the porkers in D.C. think the United States of America will be any different?

"VOODOO ECONOMICS"?

Jobs Americans Won't Do: Voodoo Economics from the White House.


41 posted on 05/08/2005 10:38:49 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Former Military Chick; devolve
The Rawlins, Wyoming old prison is a fascinating tour of prison history if you ever get out that way:

http://www.wyomingfrontierprison.com/index.html

42 posted on 05/08/2005 10:51:36 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: texasflower

You are welcome. It was so kind of StarCMC to host the photo's so that they can be viewed as the last thread caused a great deal of trouble.

I agree that they are interesting and hopefully folks learn something new when they see this thread.


43 posted on 05/08/2005 11:31:44 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: endthematrix

Thank you for adding this view of the Federal Prison. It is one impressive structure, I could never imagine spending my rest of days in such a "prison".


44 posted on 05/08/2005 11:33:08 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: StarCMC

This could not have been done without your help, I am so thankful for hosting these photo's.


45 posted on 05/08/2005 11:34:46 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: G.Mason

Groovy, thanks for the added description of entering the prison. Really, your comment was one of the reason's I posted this thread (a second time) to not only share what I saw but to read fellow Freeper's experiences of the prison and location.

It might seem trite but a mind is a terrible thing to waste, and, I am so proud of those who have shared their memories and knowledge of this historic institution.


46 posted on 05/08/2005 11:38:05 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


47 posted on 05/08/2005 11:39:20 AM PDT by Professional Engineer ("Republican politican" ~ old North American term meaning eunuck.)
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To: Happy2BMe
I recall once sending a USAF O-3 to Leavenworth for trafficking in cocaine and marijuana. The interesting thing about him was that he was also a 'JAG' officer, as was his father (O-6) who tried his best to get him off. He was also charged with adultery with an NCO's wife.

I seem to remember this case, but it's very hazy. What was his name? Where was he stationed as a JAG when he got popped? If you want to send it to me by FReepmail, that's fine.

48 posted on 05/08/2005 11:40:05 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: MoralSense

Wouldn't the plural of prospectus be "prospecti"? It is made from Latin roots, and that is the proper Latin treatment for words ending in "-us".


49 posted on 05/08/2005 11:45:38 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The last of the grammar sticklers - or the first of their return.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I had a private in my squad that was Court Martialed for rape/sexual assault. I was his escort/bailiff during the trial. He was sentenced to 15 years at Leavenworth. I remember transporting him to the MP's in an open jeep thinking he was going to jump out and run.


50 posted on 05/08/2005 12:03:10 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Eaker
They were troublemakers.

*snort* You may be right. A coworker of mine owned one. One day somebody left a gate open and Billy the bison wandered out. Some ig-nernt redneck passerby thought he'd be helpful and tried to pin Billy between a fence and his pickup. All he managed to do was tick him off. A neighbor who saw it ran to fetch my coworker and his brother from the barn so they could corral him again. The mood he was in, it was useless. The brother got a minor goring ('twas only a flesh wound) and my coworker ended up with all kinds of scratches and bruises. Once the ambulance arrived, there was no one else Billy knew who could possibly get him contained, so my coworker gave permission for them to shoot down the enraged animal while he rode to the hospital with his brother. There had to've been some county LEOs dining on bison for a while - they didn't even leave it to him to dispose of his pet's carcass. Make no mistake, this was one of his favorite animals.

51 posted on 05/08/2005 1:33:12 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Wet Burqa Contest Winner)
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To: Former Military Chick
Excellent job.
52 posted on 05/08/2005 1:53:39 PM PDT by bad company (Attempts to create heaven on earth invariably produce hell. (Karl Popper))
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To: SLB; Former Military Chick; Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

That is true, and they still produce a variety of items, like the shadow boxes for flags that are given when a military passes away. They do sewing a variety of items.

Beloved had sent a link to their site to buy their wares will ask again what the link is and post it to the thread.


53 posted on 05/08/2005 2:04:08 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Hank Rearden; SpaceBar; Mr Ramsbotham; bdfromlv; digitalbrownshirt; texasflower; StarCMC; ...
While this is a dated article is does give a description of what the inmates go through and it clarified a point that I had been told otherwise, that the new facility does house military death row prisoners and also has an execution chamber. - FMC

Fort Leavenworth replaces its century-old prison with high-tech facility

Michael S. Anderson msand@erols.com
Sun, 17 Nov 2002 06:21:49 -0800


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Military discipline
Fort Leavenworth replaces its century-old prison with high-tech facility

11/16/2002
By Chris Grenz
The Capital-Journal
When the 450 inmates at the U.S. military's new $68 million
maximum-security prison go to sleep at night, it is quiet.

That wasn't the case at the 127-year-old facility that the military's
most-hardened criminals were moved out of last month at Fort
Leavenworth. No, at the old building -- nicknamed "The Castle" -- the
sounds of inmates and guards shouting, metal doors slamming, and
occasionally restraints jingling floated through the eight-story
facility.

Besides some peace and quiet, at the new prison the inmates also have
air conditioning. And a state-of-the-art climate control system keeps
them comfortable in the winter, too.


"The inmates particularly like this a lot better than the other,"
said Lt. Col. Peter Grande, chief of staff for the U.S. Disciplinary
Barracks on the grounds of historic Fort Leavenworth.

But don't get the wrong idea. Despite modern amenities in the new
515-bed facility, it is still a prison.

"We're not making it a country club," Grande said. "But you have to
make it where it's cost effective and it meets your rehabilitation
goals. Almost every inmate here will be released back to society, so
you want them to go through a rehabilitation program. One of our
objectives of the Army

corrections system is to return inmates as a better citizen upon
release. We do that through rehabilitation. If you're in an
environment that's not comfortable, he won't try to change."

Doin' time

One of the best changes in the new facility, Grande said, is that
rather than cell doors with metal bars, the new cells have solid
doors with a window. The solid doors block out noise, making the
cells more comfortable, especially for sleeping at night.

But there are other changes as well. And they aren't just for the
prisoners, he said.

"You also have people that work there," Grande said. "If you don't
have the working conditions comfortable for the people that work
there, they're not going to be happy campers either."

The new facility has a high-tech security system. Rather than relying
on guard towers and tall rock walls, the new prison is outfitted with
scads of closed-circuit television monitors.

Outside, the prison is ringed by two 14-foot fences topped with razor
wire. The fences are equipped with an intrusion detection system.
Contrary to its name, the system will set off an alarm if someone
tries to climb or cut through the fence to get out. Cameras will
automatically begin recording that sector and guards, who are on
roving patrol, will respond immediately.

The American Correctional Association continuously has accredited the
disciplinary barracks since 1978. Next summer, the association will
evaluate the new facility, which must meet or exceed more than 450
standards to be accredited.

The city of Leavenworth is no stranger to prisons. There are four
prisons in the metro area -- a federal maximum-security prison, a
state correctional facility at Lansing, a privately owned and
operated prison called Corrections Corporation of America and the
U.S. Disciplinary Barracks. The prison population counting all four
is more than 5,000 inmates.

The prison connection is so strong that the Leavenworth Tourism
Bureau uses the prison theme in its marketing materials, which
include the slogan "Doin' Time in Leavenworth."

Rehabilitation

Last week, there were 437 prisoners at the U.S. Disciplinary
Barracks, all of whom were men. Women are sent to the Navy's
consolidated brig at Miramar, San Diego.

Enlisted personnel who are sentenced to seven years or more and all
officers convicted of a crime are sent to Fort Leavenworth. Enlisted
personnel with a shorter sentence serve their time at regional
confinement facilities.

They come from every branch of the U.S. military, and they have been
sentenced for crimes ranging from murder to mail fraud. They are in a
military prison because they violated the uniform code of military
justice, which is a separate justice system for military personnel.

The new prison at Fort Leavenworth sits on 51 acres on the northern
part of the post. Medium- and minimum-security areas have large open
areas where inmates can spend free time. In some cases, inmates are
allowed to use a gymnasium, baseball field and weight-lifting area
when supervised by military police.

A Special Housing Unit also is part of the complex. Referred to as
the SHU, the unit can accommodate up to 95 maximum-security and
protective-custody inmates, who are restricted to their cells for up
to 23 hours a day.

An execution area has been designated for military inmates convicted
to die by lethal injection. Six inmates are on death row.

For those who will leave, there is an extensive vocational training
program to help inmates find jobs upon release. Also, there are
treatment programs within the prison that are used to maintain
discipline, as well as reduce recidivism rates.

"We have a charter to do it," Grande said. "The military has made it
a priority to rehabilitate inmates. We put resources toward that."

'The Castle'

The barracks have operated at Fort Leavenworth since 1875. The prison
was opened after the secretary of war called attention to the
unethical treatment of military prisoners at stockades and state
penitentiaries.

The Castle, so named for its imposing appearance, was the centerpiece
of the prison. A massive, dome-shaped brick building, it has eight
wings that could house up to 1,500 inmates in a high-rise setup that
towered eight stories above the ground.

The old barracks sits on 12 rolling acres along the Missouri River
and is framed by a rock wall varying from 14 to 41 feet high.
Researchers and engineers will decide what to do with the old
complex. Demolition hasn't been ruled out.

Planning for the new prison, which can hold considerably fewer
inmates, began in 1994.

"Since 1994 on, the criteria to get here has changed to divert people
from coming here with the understanding that we were building a
smaller prison," Grande said.

Moving day

Moving hundreds of inmates across the Army post was a slow and
systematic process that took about a week, Grande said. Military
police from Fort Hood, Texas, came to Kansas to augment the nearly
600 workers who normally staff the prison.

Officials moved the inmates by custody grade. There are five
different custody grades assigned to inmates as an administrative
tool to indicate the kind of supervision and restraints required.
These grades range from installation trusty to maximum custody.

Guards started with the most minimum-security inmates, providing them
with an orientation to such areas as the dining and laundry rooms.

"You don't want to bring them all over and on the first day (and )
find out that your sewer system doesn't work," Grande said.

>From there, the guards worked their way up to the prisoners requiring
the most supervision.

Finally, on Oct. 5, the last of the maximum-security prisoners were taken o=
ver.

"It went very well," Grande said of the move.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Chris Grenz can be reached at (785) 295-1190 or cgrenz@cjonline.com.

Prison population


There are about 450 inmates confined at the U.S. Disciplinary
Barracks on the grounds of Fort Leavenworth. The prisoners are all
male, are both officers and enlisted personnel and are criminals from
all five branches of the U.S. military who have been convicted by a
court-martial. The average age of the inmates is 34, and the average
sentence is just more than 19 years.
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54 posted on 05/08/2005 2:08:36 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: miele man
The following shows the USDB


courtesy of Freeper tapatio


courtesy of Freeper knarf

55 posted on 05/08/2005 2:10:42 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority; Tax-chick; Andrewksu; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; poweqi; Bahbah; ...
I had previously posted a thread about the demise of the USDB. There were several interesting comments, so I gathered the names to PING you to this thread.
56 posted on 05/08/2005 2:12:23 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Bump - Thank you.


57 posted on 05/08/2005 2:44:10 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: SlowBoat407
Wouldn't the plural of prospectus be "prospecti"? It is made from Latin roots, and that is the proper Latin treatment for words ending in "-us".

No more serious than Rush saying "Iowa cauci."

58 posted on 05/08/2005 3:04:02 PM PDT by MoralSense
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To: Former Military Chick

Excellent pictures, FMC, and thanks for the ping.


59 posted on 05/08/2005 5:07:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick (One by one, the babies are stealing my sanity.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Thank you. I was stationed at Ft. Leavenworth from 1976-1981 and considered it the best stateside assignment I ever had in my 20 years. Your photo of the watch towers reminded me of several softball games in a field along that very wall. The guys were tough, but most of the time well disciplined.

The one post about the prisoners doing details outside of the prison walls was true. The LPU (local parolee unit) constituted most of the help maintaining the grounds and commissary help. The body shop did the best work in the area. It was tough to get your car in for work. They had so much business that jobs were placed in a lottery system.

Thanks. I spent time in the prison only when the weather was bad and everyone would go on sick call rather that shovel snow. Kansas winters were tough.

John
60 posted on 05/08/2005 7:47:22 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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