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To: mlc9852

Okay, so you've now shown that you don't know what the scientific definition of 'evolution' is, and you don't know what the scientific defintion of a 'fact' is.

Congratulations - you're unqualified to participate in a scientific debate.

Which, by the way, was the whole reason I posted what I did - to out the pseudoscientists.


39 posted on 05/07/2005 5:44:51 PM PDT by staterightsfirst
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To: staterightsfirst

Go back over my posts. I think you'll see I never described myself as a scientist, now did I? So technically in your post back to me, you were lying. You are just trying to make me look stupid to make yourself look smart. Oh, I know, you are a big shot in the space program, which is really cool. But that doesn't mean you have all the answers of the universe. God has also given us common sense, which the theory of evolution really stretches. Of course, you always accuse those who support teaching both sides of being liars. I am, however, able to read. Therefore, I try to read what both sides are saying and make up my own mind. I don't think evolution (as common ancestor, species jumps) has been proved and I don't think it's been completely disproved. What is wrong with teaching the problems with evolution? Or are you saying there aren't any?


40 posted on 05/07/2005 5:56:00 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: staterightsfirst
The TOE is not a fact, no theory is a fact and theories are never proven, facts are. Thats what the scientists tell me.

The TOE attempts to explain the fact that species change over time. It does this both historically by studing fossils and contemporaneously in the lab. Species adapt, mutations happen, selection occurs. I don't think you'll find many folks who disagree with that.

But the TOE is not a fact, in science theories occupy a position in the hierarchy above facts. Now guys like Dawkins would have you believe that Neo Darwinian Theory explains it all from soup to nuts and while doing so disproves a Creator. Well, I know Dawkins is a bigot but he's your bigot and he represents a school of thought that has brought about the blowback you are seeing in Kansas and elsewhere.

Such is life but since you're a states powers kind of guy I would hope you're not one of those cheering on the sidelines if the feds order Kansas to do what the Darwinists want and the residents of Kansas don't want.

41 posted on 05/07/2005 6:10:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: staterightsfirst

Oh and by the way, states don't have rights. God granted rights to individuals. States have powers and the only powers they have are the ones the people give them.


42 posted on 05/07/2005 6:12:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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