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Religion and Politics Clash (Democrats Not Welcome at Church)
WLOS ^ | 5-6-2005 | Unknown

Posted on 05/06/2005 10:47:59 AM PDT by jmc813

Religion and politics clash over a local church's declaration that Democrats are not welcome.

East Waynesville Baptist asked nine members to leave. Now 40 more have left the church in protest. Former members say Pastor Chan Chandler gave them the ultimatum, saying if they didn't support George Bush, they should resign or repent. The minister declined an interview with News 13. But he did say "the actions were not politically motivated." There are questions about whether the bi-laws were followed when the members were thrown out.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: baptist; chanchandler; churchandstate; pastor
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To: I Like Lincoln
Well, sure, so would I if I would be hanged for talking about it outside a legislature on the street.

So you favor using churches/religion to further political gains in some circumstances, good.

What would Lincoln say about this?

Please share...

41 posted on 05/06/2005 12:23:32 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: I Like Lincoln
The world is already on notice that the USA is becoming a Christian state.

As opposed to, say, the year 1790 when it was a Hindu state?

42 posted on 05/06/2005 12:32:14 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde

I just guessing here but,

"If your friend is hanging from a tree after speaking his mind in public, you should probably not do what he just did."


43 posted on 05/06/2005 12:33:21 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: I Like Lincoln
If your friend is hanging from a tree after speaking his mind in public, you should probably not do what he just did.

Of course.

So speak your mind inside a Church in order to undo a social injustice. In other words...use religion to gain political power to change laws that are unfavorable to you.

This is wrong why?

44 posted on 05/06/2005 12:36:53 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: I Like Lincoln

Where did the Abolitionist movement start?


45 posted on 05/06/2005 12:38:56 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde

I hear you, but that was a special circumstance. I disagree with a church being bi-partisan but respect their right to do so. I still think religion and politics should be separate.


46 posted on 05/06/2005 12:39:42 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: MamaB

Woodmason was commissioned by the crown to report on Churches in the low/back country in South Carolina and that area. I found it at the Genealogy Library in Houston because my ancestor is mentioned as being excommunicated. I have also seen exerpts of it on the internet.

It's an interesting read even though Woodmason's bias against anyone not Anglican leaps out of the book at you.


47 posted on 05/06/2005 12:41:05 PM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has flourescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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To: I Like Lincoln
I hear you, but that was a special circumstance. I disagree with a church being bi-partisan but respect their right to do so. I still think religion and politics should be separate.

Cool...

48 posted on 05/06/2005 12:41:20 PM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: johnb838

The left refuse to accept it is freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion.

Forced anti-religion is just as much a violation of the 1st as the imposition of a state religion.

Keep in mind there is also the freedom of association in there. A chuch or group can not be forced to associate with people who advocate homosexual marriage.


49 posted on 05/06/2005 1:05:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: johnb838
Politics and religion have NEVER been separate; in the ways the "separatists" assert it used to be, or should be.

Liberal fundamentalism has been running rampant through American orthodox churches since the 1950s, just for starters and just to mention a brief span in American history.

Off soapbox and Back to your comment: No kidding. :)

50 posted on 05/06/2005 5:57:29 PM PDT by Alia
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To: jmc813

The minister missed the boat on this deal. The idea is to keep people in the pews even if they disagree with the minister.


51 posted on 05/06/2005 8:25:41 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Alia

I agree. I don't know if it started in the 50s though. It seems like every generation calls it new, but it really started back in Genesis, Chapter 2.


52 posted on 05/07/2005 6:42:10 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: johnb838

:) yes, you are quite right; it's the greatest story ever told, no?


53 posted on 05/07/2005 5:29:52 PM PDT by Alia
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