Posted on 05/05/2005 5:51:50 AM PDT by NYer
I think the last part of your statement is correct (class of people vs individual). For whatever reason, the Court was comfortable letting the lower courts' opinions stand. And remember, the federal appealate court had 2 REPUBLICAN appointees that found in favor with Greer's decisions and a democrat who dissented. Interesting.
This is happening all of the time now and has been building over the years. Yes, there are good judges and for the most part you don't hear about them. But the bad judges, legislating from the bench, letting molesters, rapists, and murders free are the ones that are directly affecting the public. These are the judges that need to be reigned in and Congress has the power, maybe not the will, to do so.
How many times have we heard Legislatures in various states and the Congress pass laws again and again only to have them shot down or interpreted by some rogue judge or court in a perverse way (9th Circuit a huge culprit)?
Yes, there is a big problem with Judges in this country and I am sorry if I offend your Judicial friends, you being a lawyer and all.
imo
Ping!
But that is my point exactly---the trouble with some judges is that they do not follow the will of the legislature...this one did...with respect to the law passed on her behalf, I admit up front, I am not sure on what basis the court found it problematic...but Greer wasn't the only one, a court with 2 republican appointees found no error.
The ninth circuit is a travesty...I am not offended at all by what you write about them!
And THIS is why Jeb Bush and George Bush, and the sheriff and all the cops who guarded the killing hospice, are murderers, also. They obeyed the orders of Judge Greer that Terri was to be murdered.
Having obeyed similar orders from the Supreme Court for 32 years, all these people long ago lost the integrity that would have enabled them to resist Judge Greer's commands to participate in murder.
If Jeb Bush was convinced that disobeying Judge Greer was tantamount to revolution, then he was obligated to resign from the governorship. As it is, he has to live with the choice he made: He chose to participate in a murder, in order to remain Governor of Florida. All the cops made the same choice, in order to keep their jobs.
In that case, then, I agree with you. And good point.
Come on. You really want to blame the cops? Jeb Bush? If Schiavo had a written will stating no feeding tube, would that make the cops murderers, assuming the parents wanted to stop or enjoin the hospice from removing the tube?
Hellooooooo
Where have you been?
You are knocking your head against a brick wall right now. We have been informed that at least on this topic facts don't matter. My advice is move on, these threads aren't for normal discussion (as you will soon find out).
We need more priests like Fr. Pavone and fewer Bishops like Lynch who left the country while the execution was being conducted so that he wouldn't have to make any public comments about it.
Can of worms...opened.
I think you might be on to something!
I wasn't on the board while most of the hoopla was going on...it is definitely an emotional issue.
It is true that THE LAW in Florida, signed by Jeb Bush in 1999, defines a feeding tube as "life support." But that is ONLY element of the THE LAW that could be said to have forced Judge Greer in the direction of ordering Terri's killing.
He systematically excluded and/or ignored all evidence that would have weakened Michael Schiavo's FACTUAL claims. It was Greer's corrupt findings of "fact" that doomed Terri, not THE LAW alone.
That's because appellate courts never review the original FINDINGS OF FACT. Greer's findings of fact were never reviewed by all those appellate courts, and thus it is bogus and propagandistic to refer to "all those judges who supported Greer's decisions." Greer's findings of "fact" were corrupt, because he is a euthanasia enthusiast, in cahoots from the get-go with Felos, Schiavo, the killing-hospice directors, etc.
Yes, Republicans can be murderers, too. E.g., Harry Blackmun, Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, etc.
You've hit the nail on the head. And that's what's wrong with Law School 101. Law School 101 now teaches that the DEFENDANTS at Nuremburg were correct: I was only following the Law, so you have no business putting me on trial.
Which law is it that says you can kill people by stopping their food and water?
No argument there
In that case, then, I agree with you. And good point.
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