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Los Angeles, Mexico - (Trujillo defends U.S. southwest's "right to secede!")
INVESTORS.COM ^ | MAY 7, 2005 | Staff Writer

Posted on 05/04/2005 4:45:53 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Spok

Ah, yes. Might makes right, certainly over the will of the people therein.

Maybe you should brush up on your Declaration of Secession, er, Independence.


81 posted on 05/09/2005 6:12:58 AM PDT by Jsalley82
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To: thoughtomator

I agree with you, partially. The Articles of Confederation ARE defunct. In actuality, the Articles of Confederation REPEATEDLY DENIED the right of secession.

However, the Founding Fathers, who were SECESSIONISTS, realized their folly with the articles, and eliminated the clauses outlawing secession from the US Constitution.

And you may note that they dared NOT call the US a "Perpetual Union" again!!!!


82 posted on 05/09/2005 6:15:41 AM PDT by Jsalley82
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To: DuncanWaring
While, in principle, I'd have to agree with him, I would also remind him that this has been tried before and it didn't work out particularly well the last time.

Yeah, but realistically...how hard are we really going to fight to take back LA?

83 posted on 05/09/2005 6:19:39 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Joseph Turner

Actually, the right to Liberty comes from God, NOT from government. Please re-read your Declaration of Independence.

Governments will ALWAYS try to prevent people from their Liberty. I give you, Abraham Lincoln, King George, Stalin, Krushchev, Chairman Mao, all as examples.


84 posted on 05/09/2005 6:24:30 AM PDT by Jsalley82
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To: sofaman
The same can be said about this end of the border. Squalor on the other side.
85 posted on 05/09/2005 6:31:44 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Wiz
"Mexicans should admit the fact that California, New Mexico, and Arizona belongs to United States."

What these criminals either fail or are too stupid to realize is that they are fleeing a "culture" that sucks big time, just like many other groups that came to our shores for a better life. Their "culture" breeds corrupt governments and a disregard for laws.

Why the hell do these sleaze balls come here like thieves in the night, refuse to learn the language and keep their discredited culture? They then compound their criminal acts by insisting on sucking off every government teat program they can find.

Immigration may have build this country but, at the risk of being called a racist, the flood of immigrants which helped to make this country great came from a more civilized society and was for the most part legal.

The Minute Men are TRUE Americans supporting our laws that our federal government not only refuses to do but attempts to intimidate TRUE Americans when they stand up and act.

I don't know which is worse, the flood of low life's across the boarder or the corrupt federal and state governments we have allowed to develop.

I am glad we still have some of the 2nd Amendment left but I do not think the average American has the stones to use this protection for its intended purpose. This country needs another revolution (at the ballot box) but seems more interested in who will be kicked off the island this week.

86 posted on 05/09/2005 7:10:30 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Political Junkie Too
"Maybe they need a huge public works project, like building a new canal to connect the Pacific and the Gulf. Maybe they can do it near the southern border where it's narrower, and then we can have a new natural boundary for when we eventually annex Mexico."

Now this folks, is one great idea! Reduce shipping costs and time while creating a more secure border. We might want to stock the canal with sharks and I don't mean lawyers.

87 posted on 05/09/2005 7:15:32 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Wurlitzer
I think Mexico can rehabilitate itself with a national public works project like the highway works that we had in the 1960s. Just think of all the jobs that a pan-Mexican canal would generate, and all the training and new skills developed.

Plus, it will draw people from the north down to the south, away from our borders.

-PJ

89 posted on 05/10/2005 1:57:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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Texas does not have the right to secede. No state does.

What Texas did negotiate, which makes it unique among the states, as an incentive to join the U.S.A., was the right to split into two states, thereby giving it two more votes in the Senate.

(And I'm not sure whether that power is still in effect.)


90 posted on 05/13/2005 5:14:22 PM PDT by Eagle in NYC (The true meaning of “gun control" is a steady hand, proper sight picture, and a smooth trigger pull.)
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To: CHARLITE

History fact, Sep 14th, 1847: United States army seizes control of Mexico City. Mexico basically surrendered the following February.


91 posted on 05/13/2005 5:24:51 PM PDT by djf (Sheep logic, or why sheep aren't mathematicians: I'll give up my freedom to preserve freedom)
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To: djf
"History fact, Sep 14th, 1847: United States army seizes control of Mexico City."

I read an amusing (and probably factually true) post on another thread a few days ago, where the poster said that he felt confident that the U.S. 4th Army could make Mexico City in a couple of days!!

The problem is that neither party wants to take any meaningful action at all about this deluge of humanity pouring into our country.

92 posted on 05/13/2005 5:31:26 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: CHARLITE

We could easily make it, but probably not take it. It is the largest city in the world.

But we could lock it down so tight that not even a cucaracha could get in or out.


93 posted on 05/13/2005 5:34:41 PM PDT by djf (Sheep logic, or why sheep aren't mathematicians: I'll give up my freedom to preserve freedom)
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To: libertylass
THAT was fascinating. Thanks.

Shoutout to Emperor Santa Ana - thanks for all that Double Bubble.

94 posted on 05/13/2005 6:02:37 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: stopem
Today I heard something that really disturbed me. The US Treasurer is hispanic and she said that our President, who is obsessed with social security AND Mexicans, said that he will give more social security benefits to mexicans that are poor if they support his program.

citation?

95 posted on 05/13/2005 6:05:51 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: CHARLITE

Mexican American Political Association.

At first glance, I thought it said Mexican American Political Assassination.


96 posted on 05/13/2005 6:07:29 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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